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Title: New compiles/Away for quite sometime
Post by: kb7sqi on September 24, 2007, 08:05:20 pm
Hi all,
  Just wanted to say hi & let everyone know I've updated some compiles on systems over the weekend.  Not tons of stuff, but some things.  Most stuff compiled on x86,sparc & hppa.  Hope to get back into using some of my systems more. I'll be around more.  The files are located at the same place as before.

http://kb7sqi.dyndns.org/files/

Take care.

-----
Steve
Title: New compiles/Away for quite sometime
Post by: Nitro on September 25, 2007, 04:08:09 pm
Hi kb7,

Glad to see that your file archive is still online.  Welcome to the forums. :)
Title: New compiles/Away for quite sometime
Post by: kb7sqi on September 25, 2007, 04:23:45 pm
Quote from: "Nitro"Hi kb7,

Glad to see that your file archive is still online.  Welcome to the forums. :)


Hey Nitro,
   Yeah, it has been quite sometime.   :)   I got the "urge" to break out my NeXT boxes after loading Openstep 4.2 on my laptop under MacOSX.  First, I broke out the TurboSlab, then the x86 laptop, & the Sparc 5 and finally broke out my gecko yesterday.  So they're all up & running again except for a few other original NeXT systems that are spares.  Work has slowed down this past week, so I enjoyed compiling some stuff this last weekend.  I'm going to try to update other stuff as I have time.  After reading some of the messages in the forums, fyi, my apache-1.3.39 is compiled w/ mod_ssl against openssl-0.98e. It's running on my Sparc 5 now w/ no problems & I tested it on x86/hppa as well.
Title: New compiles/Away for quite sometime
Post by: kb7sqi on October 19, 2007, 01:16:25 am
Since there was a security flaw in openssl, I've compiled the newest version for hppa/sparc/intel as well as re-linked most software against the libraries on my site.  I've got more x86 stuff to upload, but if you're interested in the source, just grab the hppa files & compile that.  Sorry, my gecko has been my main compile system here recently it's the only system running ns3.3 and I'm in the middle of re-arranging all my systems/getting my laptop all setup running Openstep under Parallels.  There's also some newer compiles of some software as well.  If anyone has any questions feel free to drop me a message or an email.  Take care.
Title: New compiles/Away for quite sometime
Post by: kb7sqi on October 20, 2007, 03:52:27 pm
Ok, after all these years of my "archives" being online, I'm going to start converting them to true installable packages.  I've already started the process & have made several packages for gecko's & i386.  So, I'm giving people here a choice.  Until I get my new dev box built that will be able to compile for all arch's again, I want to know what arch gets top priority?  m68k, i386, sparc or hppa?  Everyone knows most of my stuff is compiled for  Openstep on i386/sparc/m68k.  I don't have hours to devote to this, so I'm leaving it up to you guys as to which arch comes first.  If I don't get any responses, then I'll just convert & post them when I have time.  The reasoning is, I get quite a few emails about the packages & to be honest, I have 50 megs of space left on the Sparc 5 in /usr/local.  It's a 2 gig drive.  Packages will take up less space & I'll stop posting the source archives.  I'll be happy to make them available on request.  I hope this will make it easier for everyone using my software.  Take care.
Title: New compiles/Away for quite sometime
Post by: neozeed on October 20, 2007, 04:03:29 pm
I would imagine it's i386...

You know perhaps this screams we need a NS/OS census...
Title: New compiles/Away for quite sometime
Post by: helf on October 20, 2007, 04:06:52 pm
I only use black hardware...
Title: New compiles/Away for quite sometime
Post by: kb7sqi on October 20, 2007, 04:25:04 pm
1 vote i386 & 1 vote for m68k.  :D  Helf, I understand about black hardware.   I've had my one Turbo Color system for over 10 years now.  It's ran flawless all these years.  When I started getting all the requests for x86, sparc, & gecko stuff, my Turbo Color started getting used alot less.  But I do plan on updating ALOT my m68k stuff also.  I just need some sort of idea where people want me to focus more time on.  I don't usually have tons of free time.  :(
Title: New compiles/Away for quite sometime
Post by: helf on October 20, 2007, 04:46:31 pm
That's cool :) better work on the arch with the most users. Just as long as the 68k stuff eventually gets updated ;) (im in no hurry)
Title: New compiles/Away for quite sometime
Post by: kb7sqi on October 23, 2007, 09:20:31 pm
Ok, I've got one of x86 boxes setup for quad compiling again and I started re-building stuff so I can compile stuff for all systems again.  If you point your browsers towards http://kb7sqi.dyndns.org/files/packages/  You will find the first packages that are made QUAD FAT.  I'll be compiling more stuff as the week goes on, but as in the past, I've said it over & over again,  I use this stuff on my systems, it runs fine.  I make no promises, but atleast stuff will be in package form now so you can install it as you like.   :D   Please report any problems w/ any packages.  I had a request for several things over the weekend, but they were x86 only so, I'll hold off on making those available till they're quad fat.  Take care.
Title: New compiles/Away for quite sometime
Post by: helf on October 23, 2007, 09:53:44 pm
you are my hero :)
Title: New compiles/Away for quite sometime
Post by: helf on October 24, 2007, 01:27:59 pm
Hey, i have one teeny request that can be fulfilled whenever ;)

A properly working port of top. I love top, super useful. A friend of mine got it to compile on my NeXT and it works for the most part. only thing it does not do is show the process name. So the only way to tell what program PID 3568 is that's using 85% of my CPU is to run the 'ps' command in another terminal. Can get old :P

I browsed through your archive and did not see top. But I could have missed it.
Title: New compiles/Away for quite sometime
Post by: kb7sqi on October 24, 2007, 06:21:06 pm
Quote from: "helf"Hey, i have one teeny request that can be fulfilled whenever ;)

A properly working port of top. I love top, super useful. A friend of mine got it to compile on my NeXT and it works for the most part. only thing it does not do is show the process name. So the only way to tell what program PID 3568 is that's using 85% of my CPU is to run the 'ps' command in another terminal. Can get old :P

I browsed through your archive and did not see top. But I could have missed it.


It's already been done.  :wink:   If you need a copy fast for NS3.3, grab the hppa version & extract it into a directory, do a gmake clean, gmake.  It should work fine.

But I'll make a package here shortly.  First I have another post to make.
Title: New compiles/Away for quite sometime
Post by: kb7sqi on October 24, 2007, 07:04:03 pm
Quote from: "kb7sqi"
Quote from: "helf"Hey, i have one teeny request that can be fulfilled whenever ;)

A properly working port of top. I love top, super useful. A friend of mine got it to compile on my NeXT and it works for the most part. only thing it does not do is show the process name. So the only way to tell what program PID 3568 is that's using 85% of my CPU is to run the 'ps' command in another terminal. Can get old :P

I browsed through your archive and did not see top. But I could have missed it.


It's already been done.  :wink:   If you need a copy fast for NS3.3, grab the hppa version & extract it into a directory, do a gmake clean, gmake.  It should work fine.

But I'll make a package here shortly.  First I have another post to make.


Compiled quad fat & packaged.  It's available for download now.  Let me know how it works.  There's 2 different flags for the  top package.  I chose the next32 version to get it to compile & show the commands on my x86 box.  Normally you'd use the next40 version.  I can compile it either way.
Title: New compiles/Away for quite sometime
Post by: helf on October 24, 2007, 07:41:15 pm
cool, thanks. I'll try it out tonight. :)
Title: New compiles/Away for quite sometime
Post by: kb7sqi on October 26, 2007, 03:53:15 pm
Ok, I have finally got OpenSSL compiled/packaged Quad-Fat.  It was a pain since I had to compile it 4 different times & then lipo the binaries/libraries together.  But, it does save alot of disk space on my web site.  :D  This time around I compiled OpenSSL-0.9.8g against zlib-1.2.3 which gives it a nice boost in performance, so I created a combo package for OpenSSL-Zlib on in my packages directory.  Just remember when you got to link again openssl you have to link against zlib also.  It should pick it up automatically, but just in case.  :wink:   Now that OpenSSL is done, I can start compiling stuff that requires it.
Title: New compiles/Away for quite sometime
Post by: helf on October 26, 2007, 04:30:46 pm
I love you ;)

This is awesome. I'm gonna spend a little cash and get a new hdd for my color turbo and start an OS4.2 install from scratch with all these updates libs and such. :)
Title: New compiles/Away for quite sometime
Post by: kb7sqi on October 26, 2007, 04:41:25 pm
You can start using them now since they've been compiled for NS3.3.  :D
Title: New compiles/Away for quite sometime
Post by: helf on October 26, 2007, 04:44:00 pm
oh I know. But my current NS3.3 install is kinda wonky. It's the drive I've used for over 2 years. and its messy... I want to start fresh :)
Title: New compiles/Away for quite sometime
Post by: kb7sqi on October 28, 2007, 02:13:52 pm
I've posted several more packages to the packages directory, I'm going to hold off on making anymore till I get some feedback on how the packages work.  So, please let me know how they work.  :D   Thanks.
Title: New compiles/Away for quite sometime
Post by: helf on October 31, 2007, 09:18:11 pm
Hey, sorry I haven't given any feedback yet. haven't had a chance to try out some of the packages on my machine yet :\
Title: New compiles/Away for quite sometime
Post by: kb7sqi on November 01, 2007, 03:18:26 am
Quote from: "helf"Hey, sorry I haven't given any feedback yet. haven't had a chance to try out some of the packages on my machine yet :\


I'm not rushing anyone.   :wink:   I know life keeps everyone busy.  I work anywhere from 50-80 hours a week.  I completely understand.  I  just wanted to let everyone know I wouldn't be making anymore packages  available until I get some feedback.  I hate to waste what free time I have making more packages when I need to go back & fix something first.   :)   I've tested the software on my systems for the most part.  I just want a few others to test them as well.  I'm working on some other stuff as well.  Like getting the latest version of tin, stunnel & a few other things.  I have tin working great on hppa, sparc, & m68k, but it's bombing out on x86 for some reason.  Kinda strange, since I'm using the same code & stock compiler.  I have almost have a clean port of stunnel also.  Just got to finish the network.c code.  I only had a few minutes to work on it today.  I'll get to take a look more at it this weekend.  In the mean time, I'll keep stopping by checking.  Most of the software I compile is just stuff I like to use personally.  If it's useful to others as well that's an added bonus.  Take care.   :lol:
Title: New compiles/Away for quite sometime
Post by: kb7sqi on November 05, 2007, 02:53:26 am
Ok so I lied a little bit.  :wink: There's a few more packages up on the web site. Mainly Stunnel-4.21, Zip/Unzip.   :D   Stunnel is nice SSL Wrapper Utility that can be used to secure IMAP/SMTP connections as well as things like vnc connections, etc.  Check out www.stunnel.org for more info.  Hope someone can find some uses for it.   Take care.
Title: New compiles/Away for quite sometime
Post by: kb7sqi on November 05, 2007, 04:27:21 am
Last package for the weekend is climm-0.6 which is the re-encarnation of micq.  This is compiled tri-fat for OPENSTEP.  I need to fix it on NEXTSTEP.  So, I went ahead & made a quick package till I get it running on my gecko.  Then I'll re-compile it quad-fat.  I've tested it on all three arch's.  It's working as it should.  Hope it comes in handy.  :D   Take care.
Title: New compiles/Away for quite sometime
Post by: kb7sqi on November 06, 2007, 01:43:36 am
Quote from: "kb7sqi"Last package for the weekend is climm-0.6 which is the re-encarnation of micq.  This is compiled tri-fat for OPENSTEP.  I need to fix it on NEXTSTEP.  So, I went ahead & made a quick package till I get it running on my gecko.  Then I'll re-compile it quad-fat.  I've tested it on all three arch's.  It's working as it should.  Hope it comes in handy.  :D   Take care.


climm-0.6.1 compiled/packaged quad-fat is up on the site.  It's a bug fix update.  It's tried & tested on NEXTSTEP.   :wink:   Take care.
Title: New compiles/Away for quite sometime
Post by: helf on November 06, 2007, 02:56:36 am
eergh, next week I should have my machines back up so I can test all this stuff out :) Can't wait.
Title: New compiles/Away for quite sometime
Post by: kb7sqi on November 06, 2007, 05:02:35 pm
ncurses-5.3, ytalk-3.3.0, & slirp-1.0.16+patch are up on the site.  All compiled quad-fat & packaged.   :D   For more information on slirp, check out   http://slirp.sf.net  Take care.
Title: New compiles/Away for quite sometime
Post by: kb7sqi on November 06, 2007, 07:15:39 pm
a few more.  :D texinfo-4.9, pcre-7.4, grep-2.5.3, & yydecode-0.2.10 all quad-fat & packaged are now posted.
Title: wow
Post by: neozeed on November 06, 2007, 08:25:03 pm
wow, you are a compiling machine!

Have you looked at quake1 by any chance?  I've started a minimal server port, I think I may have that running 'soon'.....

I'd love to mix in the graphics! .. maybe sound, but I'm a cli objective c n00b, but i know the uae source has a 'working' example....
Title: New compiles/Away for quite sometime
Post by: kb7sqi on November 16, 2007, 03:24:48 pm
As posted in the Netris thread, I compiled a quick quad-fat package of Netris-0.52.  It's compiled against ncurses, so it supports color.  It's on the server now in the package directory.  Take care.
Title: New compiles/Away for quite sometime
Post by: kb7sqi on November 18, 2007, 07:51:36 pm
wu-ftpd-2.6.2+security patches is posted quad-fat/packaged now.  Hope it comes in handy for ya.  8)  Take care.
Title: New compiles/Away for quite sometime
Post by: kb7sqi on November 19, 2007, 05:59:22 am
In my continued quest to get an AIM client working on a NeXT system again, I have compiled quad-fat/packaged bsflite-0.82, a BS-Free Aim Client.  :lol:   It has been tested on x86/hppa.  It works, I chatted w/ helf & erikthehack tonight.  Make sure to take a look at the README in /usr/local/share/bsflite.  There's also a config-example file in that directory as well.  Just copy it to ~/.bsflite/config & edit it to your desires.  I'm working on a few other clients now that I figured out  the problem w/ bsflite.  So, stay tuned.  8)   Take care.
Title: New compiles/Away for quite sometime
Post by: kb7sqi on November 19, 2007, 07:24:28 pm
ncftp-3.2.1 compiled/packaged quad-fat linked against ncurses is posted. :D It's a clean port w/ no -posix.  Took a little while. Take care.
Title: New compiles/Away for quite sometime
Post by: kb7sqi on November 19, 2007, 08:23:27 pm
uudeview-0.5pl20, slang-1.4.9, & slrn-0.9.8.1pl1 all compiled/packaged quad-fat have been posted.  8)   Take care
Title: Thanks
Post by: ericj on November 19, 2007, 08:31:27 pm
Hey, just wanted to say thanks for all of the ports, since they make NS/OS even more usable for me and for others.

Keep up the good work,
Eric
Title: New compiles/Away for quite sometime
Post by: kb7sqi on November 20, 2007, 12:16:43 am
Thanks.   I hope people get good use out of them.   :D   I can remember when I first started using my first NeXT system.  I seemed lost when it came to compiling stuff. hehe.  Even the simplest things seemed to fail.  Alot has changed since then.   :wink:

BTW, rdesktop-1.4.1 is compiled/packaged quad-fat is posted as well.

Take care.
Title: New compiles/Away for quite sometime
Post by: kb7sqi on November 20, 2007, 12:24:44 am
Quote from: "kb7sqi"Thanks.   I hope people get good use out of them.   :D   I can remember when I first started using my first NeXT system.  I seemed lost when it came to compiling stuff. hehe.  Even the simplest things seemed to fail.  Alot has changed since then.   :wink:

BTW, rdesktop-1.4.1 is compiled/packaged quad-fat is posted as well.

Take care.


I should mention for rdesktop, which is a cli windows terminal services client, you do need Cub-X installed.  :D
Title: New compiles/Away for quite sometime
Post by: mgtremaine on November 23, 2007, 03:04:12 am
Any thoughts of trying to get a more modern browser working? I was looking at trying to get Dillo to compile but it seems to want pthreads and that is a not going to work. Maybe elinks or one of the text based browsers with graphics supports would possible,

As I was trying to get this stuff togther I was able to compile and install bash 2.05a, libjpeg-6b and libpng 1..2.23 no real problems with those expect the /bin/sh did not like one line of the configure file in libpng but it was easy to fix. I compiled and installed bash after I did that so had I do it first I'm sure it would have been easier to run configure through bash rather then sh. The one package I can not get but was very close was libtiff I can get it to configure and then I have to fake it out [ mv /bin/sh /bin/sh.safe; ln -s /usr/loca/bin/bash /bin/sh ] in order to get the libtool lines to work. But even with this hack I was getting stopped in the tools/ dir by a missing symbol from ld [_manmap in the file bmp2tiff.c ].  If libtiff can get compiled then that would be one step closer to something newer.

Anyway just some thoughts about possible new packages. bash, libpng and libjpeg are low hanging fruit if you want to compile them up.

-Mike
Title: New compiles/Away for quite sometime
Post by: kb7sqi on November 23, 2007, 05:27:00 am
Hi,
 I actually have libpng, jpeg, & libtiff compiled fine for openstep and if you look in my x86 archive, you'll see links is compiled.  It's compiled against all of those as well as x11.  I have a binary for hppa/sparc as well.  Those were actually on my todo list for quad packages for NEXTSTEP 3.3.  links works pretty well for a cli browser when using the -g for graphics.  I mean, it's not firefox, but it is suitable for quite a few sites.  It's compiled against openssl as well.  If my weekend stays as planned, I should have most of those packaged up quad fat as well.  I know I need bash-2.05b for m68k as my system is still running 2.05a.  I'll try to take a look at 3.0x also this weekend.  I hope everyone celebrating Thanksgiving had a wonderful/safe Turkey day.  :wink:  

Just FYI, almost everything I compile as you've noticed is straight C code.  I wish I knew Objective-C, because I for one would love a new modern browser/im client etc.  I've had good luck @ getting C stuff to compile & I always try to stay away from using the -posix flags because I hate the bugs that come along w/ it.  But if anyone is really good w/ Objective-C, I can assist in getting the lower level code to compile for a modern browser/im client.  I'm always open for suggestions when it comes to getting stuff to run on our older systems.  I'll look @ compiling a newer version of Amaya as well.  It's a html editor/web browser as well.  I know it compiles easily on NEXTSTEP/OPENSTEP,  but it uses X11.  Take care.
Title: New compiles/Away for quite sometime
Post by: kb7sqi on November 23, 2007, 05:42:01 am
Also should mention I do have some stuff compiled for my personal use, that I've never made available like jpilot, etc. Simpily for the fact that it's stuff compiled for OPENSTEP & I know most everyone on the site prefers stuff compiled for NEXTSTEP 3.3.  The problem w/ that is, when trying to compile certain things, the 2.5.8 compiler can make it difficult.  That's the only version of gcc that's available for hppa.  On x86/m68k you can use egcs & 2.95.3/4. But even sparc is limited to 2.7.2.x  Whether its the OPENSTEP version or the NEXTSTEP version.  So, you have to decide somewhere what you want to see compiled for all versions of NS/OS or only focus on certain arch's like m68k/x86.  Each arch has their own pluses/minuses and bugs.  I've ran into the problem several times when trying to port different things.  Some stuff will compile fine on m68k. yet fail on all the other platforms.  A perfect example is when I got a clean port of gpg-1.2.6 compiled for m68k.  I 've never been able to take the same code & get it to work on x86, sparc, or hppa.  Another example would be screen-4.0.x  It'll compile fine on x86/m68k using egcs.  Take the same code & try it the stock cc or on NEXTSTEP.  It don't want to compile.   :roll:   That's just a few more observations about trying to get stuff to compile on our systems and I've never claimed to be an expert.  Take care. :lol:
Title: New compiles/Away for quite sometime
Post by: mgtremaine on November 24, 2007, 02:45:48 pm
Well you are more of any expert then I that is for sure. [I'm just a perl hacker who has had to compile enough software to be dangerous ;P ]. It does seem that NeXTSTEP is the target of choice although Openstep is probably more useful. [I see that there is even a pthreads tarball for Openstep.]. Sticking to the base gcc [2.7.2] seems to be the best way to keep compatibility [I had no idea that HPPA was 2.5 based  :?:  ].

In any case keep of the good work!

-Mike
Title: New compiles/Away for quite sometime
Post by: kb7sqi on November 25, 2007, 04:48:29 am
Well, here's a start on some of those requests.  :wink:   jpeg-6b w/ libtiff patch for ojpeg support, jasper-1.900.1, jbigkit-1.6, libpng-1.2.23, tiff-3.8.2, and links-2.1pre19 all compiled quad-fat/packaged/posted.  8)   Now, just FYI, jasper/jbigkit are newer JPEG support libraries w/ some cli command tools.  tiff-3.8.2 had to be compiled one arch @ a time & lipo'ed together.  Which took alittle while, but that's ok.  And finally, links-2.1pre19 was compiled against jpeg, tiff, openssl, zlib, & X11, which means if you have CubX installed & you run it by kicking off links -g, it'll open up a nice big window w/ graphics/javascript/ssl support.  Remember, it's not Firefox, but it does work pretty good.  More to come over the weekend as time permits.  Enjoy the packages.  Take care.

Oh btw, next time you want to compile tiff, just remember that it flags mmap support incorrectly so you have to vi the libtiff/tif_config.h & comment out the line HAVE_MMAP 1.  Then it should compile clean.
Title: New compiles/Away for quite sometime
Post by: mgtremaine on November 25, 2007, 05:58:26 pm
Quote from: "kb7sqi"
Oh btw, next time you want to compile tiff, just remember that it flags mmap support incorrectly so you have to vi the libtiff/tif_config.h & comment out the line HAVE_MMAP 1.  Then it should compile clean.


Very cool, I'm going give it a them a try later today! Thanks.

-Mike
Title: New compiles/Away for quite sometime
Post by: kb7sqi on November 26, 2007, 01:18:18 am
Two more for ya.  8)   gd-2.0.35 and rsync-2.5.7.  Both are compiled quad-fat/packaged. gd-2.0.35 is a another graphics library/command utils and rsync-2.5.7 is a backup util.  Note: rsync-2.6.9 is the latest available, but getting rsync to work properly on a NeXT system can be challenge.  I have 2.6.6 compiled, but it fails most of the  built in checks.  Here's the output of rsync-2.5.7:

POSIXLY_CORRECT=1 TOOLDIR=`pwd` rsync_bin=`pwd`/rsync srcdir="." ./runtests.sh
============================================================
./runtests.sh running in /Users/kb7sqi/temp/source/rsync-2.5.7
   rsync_bin=/Users/kb7sqi/temp/source/rsync-2.5.7/rsync
   srcdir=.
   testuser=root
   os=Mach kernel version:
        NeXT Mach 4.2: Tue Jan 26 11:21:50 PST 1999; root(rcbuilder):Objects/mk-183.34.4.obj~2/RELEASE_I386

Kernel configured for a single processor only.
1 processor is physically available.
Processor type: I386 (Intel 586)
Processor active: 0
Primary memory available: 256.00 megabytes.
Default processor set: 52 tasks, 95 threads, 1 processors
Load average: 0.33, Mach factor: 0.82
   preserve_scratch=no
   scratchbase=/Users/kb7sqi/temp/source/rsync-2.5.7/testtmp
PASS    00-hello
PASS    chgrp
PASS    chown
PASS    daemon-gzip-download
PASS    daemon-gzip-upload
PASS    daemon
PASS    devices
SKIP    duplicates (Known minor bug in this code)
PASS    hands
PASS    hardlinks
PASS    longdir
SKIP    ssh-basic (Skipping SSH tests because $rsync_enable_ssh_tests is not set)
PASS    symlink-ignore
PASS    trimslash
PASS    unsafe-byname
PASS    unsafe-links
------------------------------------------------------------
----- overall results:
     14 passed
     2 skipped
------------------------------------------------------------
overall result is 0
bash-2.05b#
Title: New compiles/Away for quite sometime
Post by: kb7sqi on November 26, 2007, 01:57:41 am
bash-2.05b posted as well.  Quad-Fat/Packaged.  Enjoy. :D
Title: New compiles/Away for quite sometime
Post by: mgtremaine on November 26, 2007, 02:13:00 am
Quote from: "kb7sqi"bash-2.05b posted as well.  Quad-Fat/Packaged.  Enjoy. :D


Cool I was about to post that I just built bash-2.05b and it compiled clean the only changes I needed to do where to add some quotes into the configure file.

Did you happen to use the patches here http://ftp.gnu.org/gnu/bash/bash-2.05b-patches/

-Mike
Title: New compiles/Away for quite sometime
Post by: kb7sqi on November 26, 2007, 03:02:35 am
Quote from: "mgtremaine"
Quote from: "kb7sqi"bash-2.05b posted as well.  Quad-Fat/Packaged.  Enjoy. :D


Cool I was about to post that I just built bash-2.05b and it compiled clean the only changes I needed to do where to add some quotes into the configure file.

Did you happen to use the patches here http://ftp.gnu.org/gnu/bash/bash-2.05b-patches/

-Mike


Oh yeah, I always use the patches if available for GNU software.  BTW, patch-2.5.9 & ispell-3.3.02 are also compiled quad-fat/packaged/posted as well.   8)   That's  over 50+ packages now in the packages directory!  Hope they come in handy.  Take care.
Title: New compiles/Away for quite sometime
Post by: kb7sqi on November 26, 2007, 04:15:37 am
Last package for the weekend, elm-2.5.8 compiled quad-fat/package/posted.  8) Take care.
Title: New compiles/Away for quite sometime
Post by: mgtremaine on November 27, 2007, 03:21:30 am
Played with perl today.

5.005_4 compiles clean [yeah!] make test shows only 2 failures lib/complex and lib/db-btree , since I have not built BDB that makes sense.

5.6.2 fails to compile about half way through it dies on lib/Socket something about [bsd/netdb.h]

I'm going look at 5.8.8 and see if it does the same. [Edit: 5.8.8 dies right away does not like the syntax of int struct or something. Probably would do better with a newer gcc but oh well.]

-Mike
Title: New compiles/Away for quite sometime
Post by: kb7sqi on December 03, 2007, 05:39:22 pm
Hey Mike,
    Now that I'm back in town for the week, I'll try to get a good version of Perl to compile w/ POSIX support.  It's possible, you just need to extract libposix.a that comes w/ NEXTSTEP 3.3 & add some of the .o files to the compile.  It's been a while since I did it, but I should have some notes around here still.  :D   I'll try to get it done before leaving for MD this weekend.  I have a class next week, so I'll probably be pretty busy.
Title: New compiles/Away for quite sometime
Post by: helf on February 15, 2008, 05:14:02 pm
any luck on compiling perl, yet? :)
Title: New compiles/Away for quite sometime
Post by: kb7sqi on February 17, 2008, 06:56:41 am
Hey all,
   Sorry for the delay in anything new.  I've been pretty busy w/ work these days.  Then my trusty x86 laptop that use for compiling finally died after 5+ years of service.  :(   I was trying to use my older thinkpad 701c, but it didn't want to connect to the network properly.  So, I finally picked up a newer/faster x86 laptop.  :P   It's a lot quicker for compiles!  Anyway, I found my notes for perl & I'll try to compile a new version sometime this week along w/ some other catching up I need to do.  Take care.
Title: New compiles/Away for quite sometime
Post by: kb7sqi on February 20, 2008, 03:00:14 am
New port of perl has been started.  I found my notes & will be try to get a clean build w/ posix support w/out using -posix on my Geko.  From there, I'll compile a package quad fat.  I also need to start back on vMac & UAE.   Since I brought that subject up, does anybody really want a package of vMac/UAE for m68k?  I have a successful build on x86 of vMac & I can tell you, I don't see it being usable on our trusty 25/33 Mhz NeXT boxes.  I booted up my emulated Mac Plus w/ 4 megs of ram running System 7 and it was pretty slow even on my virtual x86 image under Mac OSX & Solaris.  It's usable, but on the old hardware, I just don't see the benefit besides seeing it geek wise.  :wink:  It's not any more trouble to compile it, just wanted to asked everyone's view on it.  Take care.
Title: New compiles/Away for quite sometime
Post by: helf on February 20, 2008, 03:48:04 am
'course *I* want a package of anything that gets ported to NS :P

vMac! UAE! SoftPC! wooo! :) just need Atari, RiscPC, and X68000  emulators for the NeXT to be able to run all competitors software ;-)
Title: New compiles/Away for quite sometime
Post by: krfkeith on February 20, 2008, 10:43:43 pm
where are these apps being stored?
Any chance of firefox? (doubt it)

I would love an X68000 emulator!!!! (like I will EVER get one of those!)
Title: New compiles/Away for quite sometime
Post by: kb7sqi on February 23, 2008, 07:13:58 pm
Updates/New Compiles available in the standard place:

apache-1.3.41.pkg.NIHS.tgz  
pcre-7.6.pkg.NIHS.tgz
cabextract-1.2.pkg.NIHS.tgz  
sha-1.0.4.pkg.NIHS.tgz
libpng-1.2.24.pkg.NIHS.tgz  
tre-0.7.5.pkg.NIHS.tgz

Please note that this time around besides compiling apache w/ modules=most & mod_ssl, I've also included mod_bandwidth as well.  PCRE is also compiled against bzip2/zlib as well.  Now back to perl.  :wink:  

krfkeith, vMac isn't ready for primetime yet.  It's a work in progress.  I have it running fine on x86.  But want it quad fat.  You pay my salary for a year & I'll work on firefox.  Hehe.  Take care & hope everyone tries the new packages.
Title: New compiles/Away for quite sometime
Post by: kb7sqi on February 24, 2008, 11:42:20 pm
As promised, perl-5.6.2 is now available quad fat.  :D  It's compiled against libdb, libgdbm, and IPC.  Now, it fails 5 test out of 354 tests.  But according to Perl changelog, it's expected to fail some tests on NEXTSTEP.  It comes w/ POSIX support also.  Here's the output of perl -V:

bash-2.05b$ perl -V
Summary of my perl5 (revision 5.0 version 6 subversion ) configuration:
 Platform:
   osname=nextstep, osvers=3_3, archname=nextstep
   uname='nextstep retrobsd lantern5v 3.3 intel 486 i386 '
   config_args='-d'
   hint=recommended, useposix=true, d_sigaction=undef
   usethreads=undef use5005threads=undef useithreads=undef usemultiplicity=undef
   useperlio=undef d_sfio=undef uselargefiles=define usesocks=undef
   use64bitint=undef use64bitall=undef uselongdouble=undef
 Compiler:
   cc='cc', ccflags ='-arch i386 -arch m68k -arch hppa -arch sparc -traditional-cpp -DUSE_NEXT_CTYPE -I/usr/local/include',
   optimize='-O',
   cppflags='-traditional-cpp -DUSE_NEXT_CTYPE -I/usr/local/include'
   ccversion='', gccversion='NeXT DevKit-based CPP 3.1', gccosandvers=''
   intsize=4, longsize=4, ptrsize=4, doublesize=8, byteorder=1234
   d_longlong=define, longlongsize=8, d_longdbl=define, longdblsize=12
   ivtype='long', ivsize=4, nvtype='double', nvsize=8, Off_t='off_t', lseeksize=4
   alignbytes=8, usemymalloc=n, prototype=define
 Linker and Libraries:
   ld='cc', ldflags ='-arch i386 -arch m68k -arch hppa -arch sparc -traditional-cpp -u libsys_s -L/usr/local/lib -L/usr/gnu/lib'
   libpth=/usr/local/lib /usr/gnu/lib /usr/shlib /lib /usr/lib
   libs=-ldbm -lgdbm -ldb -lIPC
   perllibs=-lIPC
   libc=/lib/libsys_s.a, so=so, useshrplib=false, libperl=libperl.a
 Dynamic Linking:
   dlsrc=dl_next.xs, dlext=so, d_dlsymun=undef, ccdlflags=' '
   cccdlflags=' ', lddlflags='-arch i386 -arch m68k -arch hppa -arch sparc -traditional-cpp -nostdlib -r -L/usr/local/lib -L/usr/gnu/lib'


Characteristics of this binary (from libperl):
 Compile-time options: USE_LARGE_FILES
 Built under nextstep
 Compiled at Feb 24 2008 17:19:46
 @INC:
   /usr/local/lib/perl5/5.6.2/next-fat
   /usr/local/lib/perl5/5.6.2
   /usr/local/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.6.2/next-fat
   /usr/local/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.6.2
   /usr/local/lib/perl5/site_perl
   .
-bash-2.05b$

I haven't done any extensive testing yet & I've only installed it on x86/hppa.  So, no promises, etc like every other package.   :wink: But it seems to work fine.  You will need to install libdb, gdbm, & IPC from either my packages or off the archives.  Please let me know if you have any problems w/ the package.  I might temp 5.8.8 or 5.10.0 eventually, but it was fun getting the config.sh file just right for quad compile.   I must've compiled it 10-20 times this weekend.  Take care.
Title: New compiles/Away for quite sometime
Post by: mgtremaine on February 24, 2008, 11:51:40 pm
:lol: Nice!

[I figured 5.6 was doable, I think 5.8 will be a major PITA]
Title: New compiles/Away for quite sometime
Post by: Nitro on February 24, 2008, 11:56:36 pm
Quote from: "kb7sqi"As promised, perl-5.6.2 is now available quad fat.:D


That is sweet!  Thank you.  :D
Title: New compiles/Away for quite sometime
Post by: kb7sqi on February 25, 2008, 12:19:22 am
Quote from: "mgtremaine":lol: Nice!

[I figured 5.6 was doable, I think 5.8 will be a major PITA]


Oh yeah, it wasn't like the code took any major mods.  I did replace the Errno extension from 5.8.8 because the one in 5.6.2 didn't want to compile, but other than that, it was getting things set in the config.sh properly.  It's funny how taking the same code and get different results on different arch's.  :D  I compiled it on hppa first & then did the quad compile on x86 many, many times. rofl.  Oh well, it was interesting atleast.  Again, I hope it can be useful.  Take care.
Title: New compiles/Away for quite sometime
Post by: kb7sqi on February 25, 2008, 12:21:55 am
Quote from: "Nitro"
Quote from: "kb7sqi"As promised, perl-5.6.2 is now available quad fat.:D


That is sweet!  Thank you.  :D


No problem.  I'll start working on my other projects now.  I really want to get vMac working properly on hppa/sparc/m68k.  Take care.
Title: New compiles/Away for quite sometime
Post by: mgtremaine on February 25, 2008, 01:12:38 am
Which db and IPC pkg are you using?

-Mike
Title: New compiles/Away for quite sometime
Post by: kb7sqi on February 25, 2008, 02:20:18 am
Quote from: "mgtremaine"Which db and IPC pkg are you using?

-Mike


the IPC package is the SYSV IPC package that's been around for ages.  Same for the db-1.86 package.  I threw up the SysVIPC-3.5.NIHS.b.tar.gz and a db-1.86 package in the misc directory on my system.  The db-1.86 package isn't the one I've used, but should be the same.  I can test it later.

Hope that helps.  :lol:
Title: New compiles/Away for quite sometime
Post by: kb7sqi on February 25, 2008, 09:39:01 pm
Any interest in mod_perl for apache now that perl-5.6.2 is compiled?   :D   I just thought about that earlier today while working on a E15K. I'm thinking it's a  good way to test my perl compile.  If there's any interest, I'll try to work on it this week.
Title: New compiles/Away for quite sometime
Post by: mgtremaine on February 27, 2008, 03:57:03 am
mod_perl would be fun. I tried perl 5.6.2 quickly

perldoc -f print  #fails
perl -pi -e 's/foo/bar/g' test.file #works

I ran some of my own scripts and they seem fine. Looks pretty good

-Mike
Title: New compiles/Away for quite sometime
Post by: kb7sqi on February 29, 2008, 01:32:05 am
Hey Mike,
    I was curious how well your scripts were running w/ the perl port?  Do a majority of them work fine?  mod_perl is on the agenda for this weekend as long as I don't have to work.  I'm looking forward to getting it to work.  I think I'm also going to re-compile apache for OPENSTEP to support DSO as well.  Then get the WebObject 3.5.1 module to work also.  I really need to get around to updating my web site one of these days. lol.  The majority of my site has been static since I first created it 7-8 years ago. Only the files directory has really changed.  My boys are 8 and 6 now.  Wow, time sure goes by quick.  Take care.
Title: New compiles/Away for quite sometime
Post by: mgtremaine on February 29, 2008, 03:41:43 pm
So so.. simple stuff all works. Things that do not work

CPAN
POSIX

Both kick out "rld(): Undefined Symbol." [CPAN in IO.so and POSIX in POSIX.so]

Stuff that is mostly looping, printing, and text wrangling works fine. [Tried some reverse compound interest scripts, a DND level chart script, and hash sorting scripts.]

-Mike

Note: These things work in 5.0.4

mgt@betelgeuse ~ [17] perl -v

This is perl, version 5.004_04 built for next-fat

mgt@betelgeuse ~ [16] perldoc -f print
=item print FILEHANDLE LIST
..
mgt@betelgeuse ~ [18] perl -MCPAN -e shell

/Users/mgt/.cpan/CPAN/MyConfig.pm initialized.
Title: New compiles/Away for quite sometime
Post by: kb7sqi on March 05, 2008, 02:16:48 am
Quote from: "mgtremaine"So so.. simple stuff all works. Things that do not work

CPAN
POSIX

Both kick out "rld(): Undefined Symbol." [CPAN in IO.so and POSIX in POSIX.so]

Stuff that is mostly looping, printing, and text wrangling works fine. [Tried some reverse compound interest scripts, a DND level chart script, and hash sorting scripts.]

-Mike

Note: These things work in 5.0.4

mgt@betelgeuse ~ [17] perl -v

This is perl, version 5.004_04 built for next-fat

mgt@betelgeuse ~ [16] perldoc -f print
=item print FILEHANDLE LIST
..
mgt@betelgeuse ~ [18] perl -MCPAN -e shell

/Users/mgt/.cpan/CPAN/MyConfig.pm initialized.


Who compiled that version?  Was it the version off one of the NeXT ftp sites?  If so, I'll compare my config file & make sure I didn't miss anything.  I still have the source/binary archive.  If I have my way, I'll be off next week & have some time to play w/ some stuff.  This is another week that is going to be shot to h*ll.  Sorry.
Title: New compiles/Away for quite sometime
Post by: mgtremaine on March 05, 2008, 03:58:28 am
Yes that the was the normal perl package from the various ftp sites. I also just built perl 5.05 and it works fine also.

[mgt@aldebaran mgt]$ perl -v

This is perl, version 5.005_04 built for i386-next

I did nothing special [that I remember]

-Mike
Title: New compiles/Away for quite sometime
Post by: kb7sqi on March 05, 2008, 04:22:45 am
Quote from: "mgtremaine"Yes the was the normal perl package from the various ftp sites. I also just built perl 5.05 and it works fine also.

[mgt@aldebaran mgt]$ perl -v

This is perl, version 5.005_04 built for i386-next

I did nothing special [that I remember]

-Mike


Yeah, I think the difference lies in how much newer 5.6.x is.  I'll give it another go over this weekend still.  Maybe I can change how I compile the POSIX stuff.
Title: New compiles/Away for quite sometime
Post by: Einn on March 09, 2008, 05:06:34 am
Hello kb7sqi!

Thanks for your ports and updates. My NeXTstep installation is running better than ever thanks to your work. ^_~
Title: New compiles/Away for quite sometime
Post by: kb7sqi on April 18, 2008, 01:12:00 am
Hi all,
  I know it's been a while since I posted anything to this thread as updates.  I am working on the jumbo security update, but while I had a chance today, I  had forgot to post a few things I compiled a while ago.  New up in the packages directory is gnutar, readline, sudo, and something I decided to mess around w/ today.  Since newer versions of OpenSSH don't like to compile on NEXTSTEP 3.3 w/ the stock compiler, I decided to give SSH-3.2.9.1 a try.  I'll admit, it's been years since I even looked at ssh from ssh.com.  :D   Simply because I like OpenSSH.  I tried OpenSSH-5.0p1 today and while most of it compiles, it still has some problems even on OPENSTEP 4.2.  So, I took the time to try ssh-3.2.9.1.  First thing off the back, I know it needs -posix to compile.  I hate using it.  But, the shocking thing is, ssh-3.2.9.1 actually compiles w/ only 1 mod needed.  Other than that, it's running on the new install on my Thinkpad 560E.  Check it out:

-bash-2.05b$ ./ssh -V
ssh: SSH Secure Shell 3.2.9.1 (NEXTSTEP 3.3) on i386-next-openstep4
-bash-2.05b$

Like the custom NEXTSTEP 3.3 banner?
:wink:   The biggest suprise is that the SFTP daemon works!  I had no problems using sftp to connect to my thinkpad from my Sun box & xfer files.  That's something that don't like to work on OpenSSH.  So, I've packaged it up for beta testing.  It's in the packages directory.  Once you install the package run the script /usr/local/sbin/ssh-setup as root to setup your /etc/ssh2/hostkey file.  You need to do that prior to using sshd2.

The other plus you don't need prngd running.  However. I still need to do some more research on patches for 3.2.9.1.  It hasn't been updated in a while.  So, I STRESS the beta part till I can make sure we don't need some patches.  And yes, it's compiled quad-fat.  Give me some feedback.  Thanks.  Now, back to other projects.  Take  care.
Title: New compiles/Away for quite sometime
Post by: kb7sqi on April 18, 2008, 01:15:25 am
A couple of things I should mention also about the ssh package is it's compiled against tcpwrappers & should work w/ X11 as well.  I made sure that stuff was set when I compiled it.  :wink:   That comes in handy when using Cub-X. Take care.
Title: New compiles/Away for quite sometime
Post by: kb7sqi on April 18, 2008, 03:40:03 pm
Ok, I had some time to do some research on the ssh-3.2.9.1 this morning.  I've recompiled it after applying 4 patches.  Two were security patches in the sftp subsystem & the other two minor patches from NetBSD/FreeBSD.  I also took the time to include the docs from the archive & put them in /usr/local/share/doc/ssh2.  If you downloaded the previous archive, I highly recommend you re-download the package.   :D  I'm still going to say it's for beta testing, but it seems to work well on my 560E.  I'll be updating several other older packages over the weekend.  Take care.

Update, I tested the sftp/sftp server w/ a few downloads over 100+megs.  It's working 100%  8) Even the progress report in sftp commands works great.  I also tested the ssh forwarding w/ X11 & Cub-X.  It's works 100% also.   So, I'd say the package isn't too beta.  The one patch also took care a problem when you ssh to a system & get the an error when you don't have it's public key.  I'm going to be installing the package on a few other systems & keep it as the default ssh server.  I'm happy w/ it.  Especially after patching for security errors.  I can add skey support if you like besides compiling against tcp-wrappers. Which has been done.  Anyway, feedback would be great.  Take care.
Title: New compiles/Away for quite sometime
Post by: kb7sqi on April 19, 2008, 02:05:00 am
New packages up in the packages directory:
bsflite-0.83.pkg.NIHS.tgz
bzip2-1.0.5.pkg.NIHS.tgz
climm-0.6.2.pkg.NIHS.tgz
libpng-1.2.26.pkg.NIHS.tgz
links-2.1pre19.pkg.NIHS.tgz
msmtp-1.4.14.pkg.NIHS.tgz
stunnel-4.22.pkg.NIHS.tgz

These are minor updates/security updates for all of the above packages.  links was recompiled/linked against the updated libpng pkg.  Take care.
Title: New compiles/Away for quite sometime
Post by: kb7sqi on April 20, 2008, 02:54:05 pm
A couple more new packages.  pine-4.64 & libutf8-0.8 have been upload to the packages directory.  A quick note about pine.  Since Alpine still don't want to compile on a NeXT system like pine does, I took the imap/c-client library from Alpine-1.10 & compiled pine-4.64 against that.  This atleast gives pine the latest imap/c-client features.  That also means the package has the latest ipop2/3 & imapd daemons as well as the rest of the tools that come w/ pine in the package.  It's compiled against OpenSSL as well so it provides SSL/TLS support.   The package is about 50 megs.  It's takes a little space to compile it quad-fat, but I wanted to make sure it was available for the upcoming email article.  :wink:   Don't worry, when you install the package, it'll lipo out the rest of the arch's you choose not to install.  Making it a whole lot smaller.  One cool thing, there's almost 70 packages now in my packages directory! Enjoy & take care. :wink:
Title: New compiles/Away for quite sometime
Post by: jheis on April 21, 2008, 01:05:15 am
Hi kb7:

Just wanted to say thanks for everything you've complied - although I don't have a clue as to what most of it is - or does.

For us non-techies, I'd suggest that maybe you could include a short description of what the package does - or is.  Obviously, you know what you are doing, but I'm just a clueless user.  Thanks.

James
Title: New compiles/Away for quite sometime
Post by: kb7sqi on April 21, 2008, 02:27:45 am
Quote from: "jheis"Hi kb7:

Just wanted to say thanks for everything you've complied - although I don't have a clue as to what most of it is - or does.

For us non-techies, I'd suggest that maybe you could include a short description of what the package does - or is.  Obviously, you know what you are doing, but I'm just a clueless user.  Thanks.

James


Hi James,
   Thanks for the feedback!  That's one of the reasons I've asked for it.  I'll definately start adding notes to future packages.  One quick note, alot of the packages will be used in a few upcoming articles I have planned.  I'm working on the security & email articles now.  I have a few more things I want to work on for both articles, but I'll make sure I let everyone know when they're ready.  The security article/jumbo security package is going to be pretty large, so I'm taking my time to make sure everything works as promised.  Other than that, most of the other packages are simply updated versions of software that has been previously compiled for the NeXT/other Unix systems.  A good example would be climm/bsflite.  Climm is an command line icq client while bsflite is a command line AIM client.  I know most people would prefer a qui client ,but I'm a "c" hacker.  I'd love to learn Obj-C, but what free time I have, I use to compile the stuff I do now.  So Obj-C is on the back burner for now.  Anyway thanks again for the feedback.  I do appreciate it!
Title: New compiles/Away for quite sometime
Post by: helf on April 21, 2008, 04:23:09 am
yeah, I can't thank you enough. I'm super appreciative of all your hard work :) As soon as I can get the time, I've got to do some more rounds of updates to my NeXT :P

oh, I should have that thing you wanted sent to you tuesday afternoon ^_^

oh, as far as a short description goes; It would be awesome to have a page on your site that links to each file while giving a note on the side about what it is/does/works with/howtos that use it. I'll volunteer to make it if you want :P

Sorta like this page... (but nicer)

http://www.wizards.de/~frank/download.html

btw, anyone have a copy of that guys MMP v3 program? I REALLY want it! It plays SND files among other things... :)
Title: New compiles/Away for quite sometime
Post by: kb7sqi on April 21, 2008, 02:41:23 pm
Quote from: "helf"yeah, I can't thank you enough. I'm super appreciative of all your hard work :) As soon as I can get the time, I've got to do some more rounds of updates to my NeXT :P

oh, I should have that thing you wanted sent to you tuesday afternoon ^_^

oh, as far as a short description goes; It would be awesome to have a page on your site that links to each file while giving a note on the side about what it is/does/works with/howtos that use it. I'll volunteer to make it if you want :P

Sorta like this page... (but nicer)

http://www.wizards.de/~frank/download.html

btw, anyone have a copy of that guys MMP v3 program? I REALLY want it! It plays SND files among other things... :)


Let me ask everyone here based on comments here & in your other message about one central location for "NeXT" software.  Who's willing to donate time to a major project like that?  The reason I'm asking, is I'll offer a complete Sun box specifically for the project.  I can make sure it has plenty of hard drive space, etc.  I know several folks have archives of Peak/Peanuts.  I have a good portion of the stuff, but not everything.  Also who would be willing to host it?  Right now, I'm using my Road Runner to host my sftp server & while I haven't had any problems/complaints from Road Runner, I'd be hesitant to put another system dedicated for an FTP Server besides my web server & sftp server.  I like the idea of having putting everything on one server, but I'm sure everyone knows, it does take quite a bit of a commitment to keep everything running smooth.  Like the forums here.  I think the admins have done a great job keeping the site up since the old one went down.  I'm sure this site gets a huge amount of traffic per month.  Right now since setup the sftp server, I usually have atleast 1-3 people connected to it at all times.  I'm not complaining, that's why I set it up.   :D   The Peak/Peanuts archives were what 4-6 gigs right?      Plus the roughly 5 gigs of space that my sftp server is currently using plus over 200 megs that my packages directory is currently at. Anyway, just asking the question.  I do this stuff in my spare time which everyone knows comes/goes depending on how busy work is.  If a few people were willing to help, then I'm all for the idea.  :wink:   Take care.
Title: New compiles/Away for quite sometime
Post by: kb7sqi on May 24, 2008, 06:42:40 am
Just FYI, as I mentioned in the post about kb7sqi.com, I've compiled a new version of Taylor UUCP-1.06.2 + security patches for NEXTSTEP 3.3.  It's compiled quad-fat.  If you look in the packages directory, you'll find a file called NeGeN-2.0c-Taylor-UUCP-1.06.2-kb7sqi.NIHS.pkg.tgz.  This is an updated package of the NeGeN UUCP package.  The only thing I did was update the binaries in the package.  The original pre/post install scripts are still as they were in the original 2.0b package. :-)  I also added a note in the Original README stating that I had updated the binaries.   I've tested the binaries doing uucp over ssh.  I had no problems sending/receiving email on my x86 laptop setup.  If you have any questions, feel free to drop me a note.  I'll be updating a few other packages if time permits over the weekend.  Take care.
Title: New compiles/Away for quite sometime
Post by: kb7sqi on May 27, 2008, 04:22:48 am
Well, I didn't get to do much this weekend, but I got a chance to compile the updated libpng, recompiled links against it, & compiled libtasn1 to further my progress on trying to get gnutls to compile on NEXTSTEP/OPENSTEP.  libgcrypt isn't fun on NEXTSTEP/OPENSTEP.  :-(  I'll take another stab @ it this week hopefully.  The new packages/re-packaged links are in the normal spot. :-)  Take care.
Title: New compiles/Away for quite sometime
Post by: kb7sqi on May 31, 2008, 06:57:43 pm
I had a chance to package up some stuff that should've been done ages ago along w/ an updated port of ircII, an irc client.  All are packaged quad-fat & in the normal place. :-)

bc-1.06
bison-2.3
chsh-1.3 <- change shell program off one of the archives, but quad-fat
gzip-1.3.12
ircII-20080314
sed-4.1.1
sox-12.17.1 <- use the program as a drop in for sox in the GISO.app directory to let GISO.app support more formats on conversion/playing. :-)
tf-4.0s1 <- TinyFugue MUD Client

Take care.
Title: New compiles/Away for quite sometime
Post by: neozeed on May 31, 2008, 07:13:26 pm
Hey there!  From another thread, but have you seen this?

http://www.simson.net/ref/1993/NeXTSTEP3.0.pdf

It may pique your desire for something more GUI'ish for the instant messaging...
Title: New compiles/Away for quite sometime
Post by: kb7sqi on May 31, 2008, 08:35:19 pm
Quote from: "neozeed"Hey there!  From another thread, but have you seen this?

http://www.simson.net/ref/1993/NeXTSTEP3.0.pdf

It may pique your desire for something more GUI'ish for the instant messaging...


Yeah, I've got several books on "NeXT" programing. :-)  It's that problem w/ time.  It's on my things to accomplish one day.   And an updated im client would be one of the first things written. Take care.
Title: New compiles/Away for quite sometime
Post by: kb7sqi on July 06, 2008, 04:10:49 am
Just FYI, I really haven't had a whole lot of time lately, but I've made a third update to my pine-4.64 package.  It's up on the web site for download.  This release includes the following updates: latest imap-2007b, and several updates/bugfixes from Eduardo Chappa's pine site:

http://staff.washington.edu/chappa/pine/

Patches includes this like support for a ~/.pinepw password file, quota support on IMAP servers, new reply menu, and several bug fixes. I've included a README in /usr/local/share/pine stating this info along w/ the patches I've applied.  It's also still linked against OpenSSL as well.  I've tested it w/ AOL, GMAIL, GMX, and Sun's IMAP servers.  Even the QUOTA support works w/ GMAIL. :-)  Make sure you check out Eduardo's site if you want more information on the patches.  There's a great deal of info on setting up pine if you need more info.   Take care.
Title: New compiles/Away for quite sometime
Post by: kb7sqi on July 07, 2008, 08:24:39 pm
New port. :-D

ngircd-0.12.0.  ngIRCD per it's web site is called the "NeXT" Generation IRC Daemon.  Basically, this is a clean port of a nice portable ircd so you can run your own irc server.  It's small.  I only had to make a few changes to get it to compile clean.  I've sent an email to Alex Barton, the maintainer of the project.  Hopefully in the future a NeXT will be supported w/ out any changes.   ngirc-0.12.0 was released 05/13/2008 so it was really nice seeing something so new compile so easy on the NeXT.  The code is really portable.  It even runs under A/UX.  Which is how I came acrossed it. ;-)   I had a couple of minutes to work on this while I was waiting for a customer.  8)   So, it's compiled quad-fat/packaged/up on the web site.  Enjoy.  Take care.

In case you're wondering does it work?  Of course it does! I connected to my own IRC server from several of my boxes on my network w/ no problems. :-D
Title: New compiles/Away for quite sometime
Post by: helf on July 07, 2008, 09:45:38 pm
awesome :D I'm getting cable turned on in a week or two (/finally/). Be fun to play with this :)
Title: New compiles/Away for quite sometime
Post by: kb7sqi on July 12, 2008, 11:31:41 pm
Another new port. :-D

I've had socksv5 working for quite sometime, but I was on a quest for finding a telnet client that had built in zmodem support that actually worked on our favorite box. ;-)  Why zmodem support built in?  Well, it's simple.  The telnet client that comes w/ NEXTSTEP/OPENSTEP is pretty ancient and I've never had any luck getting rz/sz working w/ it.  I wanted it so I could telnet to a old BBS system on the net & download *.qwk packets for offline message reading.  More retro action.  LOL.  Anyway, I've finally made a complete package of the NEC's SOCKSV5 library/client support.  This includes new commands like ftp, archie, finger, traceroute, whois, & telnet. All support socksv5 obviously.  I also took the time to add zmodem support to telnet.  There's complete documentation in /usr/local/share/socks directory along w/ examples.  The commands have a "r" prefix. So, rtelnet, rftp, rping, etc.  I've also included the famous connect.c that provides SOCKS support for OpenSSH.  See the connect.c in the /usr/local/share/socks directory for infomation on howto use it. :-)  I've used it successfully.  The zmodem support in telnet is invoked by once connected to a system & you have started a zmodem "send," you then type Ctrl-] like you normally would to get to the telnet> prompt.  Type ? & you'll see the rz/sz commands added.  So, you'd simply type rz <return> and the zmodem xfer will take place. :-D  It works wonderfully.  I've tested it several times over the last 24 hours.  So, I hope it comes in handy for you.  If you're wondering if I've heard of zssh, yes, I know about it.  It didn't want to work correctly on the NeXT.  Now that I have telnet working right, I might give it a shot again.  Take care.  Back to work. :-(
Title: New compiles/Away for quite sometime
Post by: neozeed on July 13, 2008, 04:47:18 pm
Have you tried to build dropbear?  I've had my cube on the internet via telnet for a while, but I'm finally thinking it may be finally time to go to ssh.....

lol just wondering..

I did do a rudmentary port to SUA/SFU and it wasn't that bad but then it's based on OpenBSD a little newer then BSD 4.3...
Title: New compiles/Away for quite sometime
Post by: kb7sqi on July 13, 2008, 07:31:17 pm
Quote from: "neozeed"Have you tried to build dropbear?  I've had my cube on the internet via telnet for a while, but I'm finally thinking it may be finally time to go to ssh.....

lol just wondering..

I did do a rudmentary port to SUA/SFU and it wasn't that bad but then it's based on OpenBSD a little newer then BSD 4.3...


neozeed why not use one my SSH packages instead of telnet?  They work a whole lot better than telnet. :-)  But I'll work on dropbear as an alternative as well.  Besides the sftp server not being worth a darn, the OpenSSH-3.6.1px package I have works extremely well.   It has several security patches as well.  I'll look @ dropbear this week. :-)  Take care.
Title: New compiles/Away for quite sometime
Post by: neozeed on July 13, 2008, 07:36:19 pm
Quote from: "kb7sqi"
Quote from: "neozeed"Have you tried to build dropbear?  I've had my cube on the internet via telnet for a while, but I'm finally thinking it may be finally time to go to ssh.....

lol just wondering..

I did do a rudmentary port to SUA/SFU and it wasn't that bad but then it's based on OpenBSD a little newer then BSD 4.3...


neozeed why not use one my SSH packages instead of telnet?  They work a whole lot better than telnet. :-)  But I'll work on dropbear as an alternative as well.  Besides the sftp server not being worth a darn, the OpenSSH-3.6.1px package I have works extremely well.   It has several security patches as well.  I'll look @ dropbear this week. :-)  Take care.


I should have figured it'd be in there... my white box is down at the moment, it turns out the goop on the cpu dried out and now it's over heating... Grrr..

I hope to get some of that artic silver nonsense today so I can get my 3Ghz NS box back online... it's just TOOO slow using my cube for anything serious....

25Mhz/40mb..... can't compare to 3Ghz/512MB...
Title: New compiles/Away for quite sometime
Post by: kb7sqi on July 16, 2008, 07:53:53 am
Ouch! Sorry to hear about that.  Real quick update.   I have conquered Dropbear-0.51 on my NeXT.  Atleast on OPENSTEP 4.2 anyway. :-D  Here's proof:

Server running:
-bash-2.05b$ sudo ./dropbear -F -E -w -p 1022
[2509] Jul 16 03:35:20 Not backgrounding
[2511] Jul 16 03:35:25 Child connection from 127.0.0.1:2731
[2511] Jul 16 03:35:31 exit before auth: Exited normally
[2524] Jul 16 03:39:30 Child connection from 127.0.0.1:2734
[2524] Jul 16 03:39:35 password auth succeeded for 'kb7sqi' from 127.0.0.1:2734

Here's the client connect:

-bash-2.05b$ ./dbclient localhost -p 1022
kb7sqi@localhost's password:
erase ^? intr ^C kill ^U
-bash-2.05b$ ls

Now, the good news is that it's a 100% posix clean port w/ no -posix.  :-D  I had to add quite a bit of stuff to make that happen.  Luckily most of the stuff came from openssh.  Now, I have to  clean it all up & get it to compile on NEXTSTEP.  It still needs some work there.  It don't like the older compiler & I also need to finish the scp command.  The ssh client, sshd server, key command & keyconvert command work 100%.  Once I get everything cleaned up & running on NEXTSTEP, I'll be sending Matt, the creator of Dropbear, all my changes.  Mostly just adding the "NeXT" stuff.  
I stayed up way too late to get this working tonight, so I hope to have a package available by the weekend.  We'll finally have a fully supported ssh client/server for our "NeXT" again!   Take care.  8)
Title: New compiles/Away for quite sometime
Post by: neozeed on July 16, 2008, 11:02:42 am
Quote from: "kb7sqi"Ouch! Sorry to hear about that.  Real quick update.   I have conquered Dropbear-0.51 on my NeXT.  Atleast on OPENSTEP 4.2 anyway. :-D  Here's proof:

Server running:
-bash-2.05b$ sudo ./dropbear -F -E -w -p 1022
[2509] Jul 16 03:35:20 Not backgrounding
[2511] Jul 16 03:35:25 Child connection from 127.0.0.1:2731
[2511] Jul 16 03:35:31 exit before auth: Exited normally
[2524] Jul 16 03:39:30 Child connection from 127.0.0.1:2734
[2524] Jul 16 03:39:35 password auth succeeded for 'kb7sqi' from 127.0.0.1:2734

Here's the client connect:

-bash-2.05b$ ./dbclient localhost -p 1022
kb7sqi@localhost's password:
erase ^? intr ^C kill ^U
-bash-2.05b$ ls

Now, the good news is that it's a 100% posix clean port w/ no -posix.  :-D  I had to add quite a bit of stuff to make that happen.  Luckily most of the stuff came from openssh.  Now, I have to  clean it all up & get it to compile on NEXTSTEP.  It still needs some work there.  It don't like the older compiler & I also need to finish the scp command.  The ssh client, sshd server, key command & keyconvert command work 100%.  Once I get everything cleaned up & running on NEXTSTEP, I'll be sending Matt, the creator of Dropbear, all my changes.  Mostly just adding the "NeXT" stuff.  
I stayed up way too late to get this working tonight, so I hope to have a package available by the weekend.  We'll finally have a fully supported ssh client/server for our "NeXT" again!   Take care.  8)


wow, freaking awesome!

I should have my p4 rolling again..   I've been dying to continue some stuff with regards to pcc & frontier.
Title: New compiles/Away for quite sometime
Post by: helf on July 16, 2008, 08:35:33 pm
sweet :D being able to connect via ssh instead of telnet will be awesome.
Title: New compiles/Away for quite sometime
Post by: kb7sqi on July 17, 2008, 02:04:31 am
Ok, get it while it's hot!  dropbear-0.51 has been compiled quad-fat & has been posted to the packages directory. :-D  So, you now have 3 different choices of ssh client/servers packages available for NEXTSTEP/OPENSTEP.  Dropbear's biggest advantage over the other two packages is size and simplicity.  the client is named dbclient instead of ssh and the server is named dropbear instead of sshd.  Now, scp is an "addon" to the dropbear package.  It's got the same name "scp" as the scp client from my OpenSSH package.  Just FYI.  See the README.NeXT and the original README/INSTALL docs in /usr/local/share/dropbear once you've installed the package.  Like my OpenSSH package, I've enclosed a script to generate keys for your server once you've installed the package.  It's  the dropbearkeygen script in /usr/local/sbin.  You'll need to run that as root.  Like OpenSSH, OpenSSL, etc you need to install my prngd package also. And have it running on boot up.  You can't just install it.  SEE the README file in the packages directory on an example on how to start it up from /etc/rc.local.  If you have any questions, feel free to ask. :-D.  Oh, that's over 80 packages now available for our NeXT's!  Enjoy!  Take care
Title: New compiles/Away for quite sometime
Post by: kb7sqi on July 19, 2008, 07:58:16 pm
New package has been posted: FIGlet-2.2.2

Basically figlet is a simple cli program to make ASCII Banners in different fonts for /etc/motd files, your ircd motd, signatures, etc.  It's a very simple program. :-)  But can be useful.  Check out http://www.figlet.org
for more info.  There's no changes needed to compile it on the NeXT.  I've included quite a few fonts from the contributed area on the figlet site.  If you want to add more fonts, just drop them in the /usr/local/share/figlet/fonts directory.  So go forth, & create some kool ascii banners. rofl.  Take care
Title: New compiles/Away for quite sometime
Post by: kb7sqi on July 19, 2008, 09:07:11 pm
Package Update: ngircd-0.12.1 has been posted.  Here's the changes:
ngIRCd 0.12.1 (2008-07-09)

 - Allow mixed line terminations (CR+LF/CR/LF) in non-RFC-compliant mode
 - Don't allow stray \r or \n in command parameters
 - --configtest: return non-zero exit code if there are errors
 - Update ngIRCd manual pages
 - Add option aliases -V (for --version) and -h (for --help).
 - Fix 'no-ipv6' compile error.
 - Make Listen parameter a comma-seperated list of addresses. This also
   obsoletes ListenIPv4 and ListenIPv6 options. If Listen is unset, it
   is treated as Listen="::,0.0.0.0".
   Note: ListenIPv4 and ListenIPv6 options are still recognized,
   but ngircd will print a warning if they are used in the config file.

Anyway, it's been updated & posted.  Quad-Fat of course. :-) Enjoy.
Title: New compiles/Away for quite sometime
Post by: kb7sqi on July 26, 2008, 11:04:01 pm
I've updated the dropbear-0.51 package this afternoon. :-)  I was reading thru the dropbear mailing list & came across several patches.  So, I've applied them & re-compiled everything.  It's on the webserver.  I also included the patches in /usr/local/share/drop/patches directory.  While I was at it, I also re-named the scp command to dbscp as suggested on the mailing list.  This way it don't conflict w/ scp from OpenSSH.  Enjoy. :-)
Title: New compiles/Away for quite sometime
Post by: kb7sqi on July 27, 2008, 09:14:04 am
Ok, I don't know how I missed it, but here's some updates/recompiles because OpenSSL was updated back in May.

New packages:
OpenSSL-0.9.8.h+zlib-1.2.3.combo package
Stunnel-4.25 <-- Now a clean port w/ no -posix. Fixed properly :-)
msmtp-1.4.15

Also the following packages have been recompiled against the new OpenSSL:

apache-1.3.41
fetchmail-5.9.13
links-2.1pre19
openssh-3.6.1p2
slrn-0.9.8.1pl1

I need to recompile several things because of the OpenSSL update, but those are the most important ones.  If you're running my OpenSSH/Apache, I highly recommend you download the new packages  & install over the older ones.  The OpenSSL updated was for security reasons.  Take care & Enjoy! ;-)
Title: New compiles/Away for quite sometime
Post by: kb7sqi on July 27, 2008, 11:32:53 pm
New port finally after a long long time! :-) One of the reasons I enjoy still compiling stuff on NEXTSTEP/OPENSTEP after all these years, is because I can still learn something.  Well, it always amazed me that I could never get screen to compile on NEXTSTEP 3.3 or OPENSTEP 4.2 w/ the stock compilers. I could compile it just fine w/ the egcs port.  It required no changes.  Clean compile.  I never worked too hard at, but it was bugging me today.  So after 10 years, I figured it out. LOL  In the egcs port's "include" files, I found my answer.  Rex who did the egcs port had made an import "fix" to the stock sys/ioctl.h:

/*
* Posix support
*/
#ifdef _POSIX_SOURCE    /* include only in -posix mode -- Rex 980928 */
#import <sys/termios.h>
#define TIOCGETA        _IOR('t', 19, struct termios) /* get termios struct */

Without the #ifdef _POSIX_SOURCE, screen's tty.c got confused & failed to compile.  Another perfect example of there's always something to learn and another perfect example of some "NeXT" errors. :-)  Once I copied his fixed sys/ioctl.h into /usr/include/bsd/sys, I have finally compiled screen-4.0.3 for NEXTSTEP 3.3 using just the stock compiler.  8)   It's been tested on x86 & hppa.   Anyway, the package is compiled & posted on the webserver.  I hope someone besides me is happy to see it on the gecko/sparc!  Take care.
Title: New compiles/Away for quite sometime
Post by: kb7sqi on July 29, 2008, 05:28:45 am
Just FYI, I just uploaded an updated version of pine-4.64.  No changes from the 3rd release, just re-compiled against the latest version of OpenSSL to get  rid of any security concerns.  :-)  Take care
Title: New compiles/Away for quite sometime
Post by: kb7sqi on July 29, 2008, 11:25:41 pm
New apache package has been posted w/ new features! :-)  I've been thinking about how to make life simpler w/ the sftp server, etc.  So, I decided to give WebDAV a try.  It's not configured/setup yet, but I've made the first step.  I've compiled a new version of apache-1.3.41 w/ mod_dav & mod_gzip.  The mod_gzip has been patched because of security concerns from 2003.  The changes to both mod_dav & mod_gzip were minimal to get them to compile.  You find an extras folder in /usr/local/apache/share.  It includes info on the extra modules now compiled into apache besides mod_ssl.  Since apache works pretty much like any other version of *nix, look to google for setup info. ;-)  Hope you enjoy the new features.  Take care. Netcraft noticed my changes: ;-)

unknown      Apache/1.3.41 (NeXT) mod_gzip/1.3.26.1a DAV/1.0.3 mod_ssl/2.8.31 OpenSSL/0.9.8h      29-Jul-2008      75.183.106.19      Road Runner HoldCo LLC
unknown    Apache/1.3.41 (NeXT) mod_ssl/2.8.31 OpenSSL/0.9.8g    17-Mar-2008    75.183.106.19     Road Runner HoldCo LLC
unknown    Apache/1.3.39 (NeXT) mod_ssl/2.8.30 OpenSSL/0.9.8g    25-Dec-2007    75.183.106.19     Road Runner HoldCo LLC
Title: New compiles/Away for quite sometime
Post by: kb7sqi on July 30, 2008, 02:08:51 am
Just wanted to update everyone on my initial testing of the new apache w/ mod_dav and mod_gzip is good. :-)  The webserver now has mod_gzip enabled and I setup a test server on one of my x86 laptops & have successfully used it as a WebDAV server.  I've copied several 100+ meg files  over to/from it.  I checked the md5sums on the files and they matched everytime.  Since this is only initial testing as one user, I'm going to keep testing it over the next several days.   If testing stays positve, I'll be setting up a WebDAV folder on the webserver over a secure port.  I've had good results w/ WebDAV on more modern operating systems like Solaris/Mac OSX, but it's pretty cool to have it working on our "NeXT." ;-)  Take care.
Title: New compiles/Away for quite sometime
Post by: kb7sqi on July 31, 2008, 05:26:54 am
Wow, no replies or downloads.  I'm shocked! ;-)  Anyway, I'd like to thank Andreas for being the first person besides myself in testing my iDisk.  He tested several files on the Sparc 5 & it working.  Now, here's another new port.  Since the new apache port supports WebDAV & it's working, I figured it was only right we had a way to connect to a WebDAV server on the NeXT.  So, the new port of the day is cadaver-0.23.2.  It's a command line WebDAV client for Unix.  Basically it's alot like FTP, but works w/ WebDAV.  If anyone has a .mac account, I'd love to know if the client works w/ that!  I've tested it on x86, m68k & hppa.  The changes to the client were minor to get it to compile clean.  The configure script don't fair well on the NeXT, but after fixing several things, I was able to get it on the right track.  Enjoy & take care.  Oh, since the Sparc 5 is working just FYI, I will be working on a new web server in my spare time.  It's still going to be a the Sparc 5 running OPENSTEP 4.2, but it's going to have a 36 gig drive in it for file storage. :-)  I'll let everyone know when it ready for primetime.  Take care.
Title: New compiles/Away for quite sometime
Post by: helf on July 31, 2008, 02:22:25 pm
gah, I've got to get 'net turned back on so I can try this stuff out :) I keep /almost/ getting internet then something comes up and I'm broke again. Starting to annoy me.

This thread has passed 10k views :P I think that is a record for this forum ;)
Title: New compiles/Away for quite sometime
Post by: kb7sqi on July 31, 2008, 07:49:54 pm
Quote from: "helf"gah, I've got to get 'net turned back on so I can try this stuff out :) I keep /almost/ getting internet then something comes up and I'm broke again. Starting to annoy me.

This thread has passed 10k views :P I think that is a record for this forum ;)


Hey Helf,
  Sorry to hear about the net access.  I know I couldn't live w/ out. ;-)  It'd drive crazy. lol.  The WebDAV stuff is working great.  I'm looking forward to getting the new hard drive built for the Sparc 5.  I'm going to dedicate 8-16 gigs just for WebDAV drives. :-)  I need to do some more testing on the straight internet to see how the speed is, but it seemed that the speed was decent for Andreas.  I mean, it'll be fine for packages, etc.  My concern is the larger downloads.  Back to work.  Take it easy.  Wow, 10K views.  That is pretty cool.
Title: New compiles/Away for quite sometime
Post by: kb7sqi on August 01, 2008, 06:14:10 pm
Hey everyone,
    Just wanted to let you know that I've heard back from Alex Barton, who is responsible for ngircd.  He's commited the patches so it should compile from now on out of the box on any NeXT.  8)  I'm looking forward to testing the next release.  I like the fact that he wrote ngircd w/ the object of portability & seems very open to support other platforms.  I'll continue to compile the new releases as they come available.  Take care.
Title: New compiles/Away for quite sometime
Post by: helf on August 01, 2008, 06:50:02 pm
What did he say about it running on a NeXT? :P
Title: New compiles/Away for quite sometime
Post by: kb7sqi on August 01, 2008, 07:13:53 pm
Quote from: "helf"What did he say about it running on a NeXT? :P


He said it was nice to see & was thankful for the support.  Looking @ commit logs since 0.12.1 was released, I'd say he keeps busy fixing & improving ngircd.  That's why I made the comment I'm looking forward to trying the next release.  I could try current from cvs, but I can wait.  I'm hoping to get the new hard drive in the Sparc 5 this weekend.  More space is needed & it'll be fun to build the OS again.  That Sparc 5 has been running flawless for quite sometime.  I'm going to bump the memory upto the max 256 megs & throw the 24-bit video card back in it while I'm upgrading the hard drive.  :-)  Luckily I have spare Sparc 5's so I can build it on one system & just take the other box down to swap the drives & reboot.
Title: New compiles/Away for quite sometime
Post by: kb7sqi on August 04, 2008, 06:13:39 pm
New port coming soon. :-D  I wanted to let everyone know, I finally have a clean (read no -posix) solution to the telnetd security whole in our NeXT systems.  If any one has read Jacques Distler's site on security holes, he had suggested porting SRP-Telnet/FTP to NEXTSTEP/OPENSTEP.  Well, I'd worked on it in the past, but never took the time to get it to compile w/ out issues.  Well, I finally resolved all the issues & have it working on x86.  8) So, once I do a re-compile/make a package, I'll be making it available.  Too find out more information about SRP, head to it's web-site:

http://srp.stanford.edu/

Don't worry, I'll be posting a how-to for this package.  It's close to a drop in replacement, but there is some setup steps so you can use the TLS security. This is also close to the last piece needed for a jumbo security patch I promised.  If you can't tell.  I'm pretty thrilled.  ;-)  Take care.
More to come and here's proof:

-bash-2.05b$ telnet localhost
Trying 127.0.0.1...
Connected to localhost (127.0.0.1).
Escape character is '^]'.
[ Negotiating SSL/TLS session ... ]
[ Cipher: ADH-AES256-SHA (256 bits) ]
[ Attempting to verify TLS session parameters... ]
[ Trying SRP ... ]
SRP Username (kb7sqi):
[ Using 1024-bit modulus for 'kb7sqi' ]
SRP Password:
[ SRP authentication successful ]
[ TLS session parameters verified by SRP ]
Last login: Mon Aug  4 13:42:37 on ttyp3 from 192.168.1.213.
No mail.
erase ^? intr ^C kill ^U
-bash-2.05b$
Title: New compiles/Away for quite sometime
Post by: kb7sqi on August 10, 2008, 10:08:37 pm
New port just for Helf ;-)  0verkill-0.16pre2

It's compiled QUAD-FAT and posted.  It's ASCII-Art game.  It installs into /usr/local/share/0verkill.  The docs are in the directory as well.  See http://artax.karlin.mff.cuni.cz/~brain/0verkill/  for more information on the game.  I just compiled it & tested it real quick for Helf.  Enjoy.  Take care.

Update:  If you downloaded this package earlier, please re-download the package and if you've installed it, Un-install & reinstall.  A security patch for  the network was needed.  It's been applied & I also fixed up the package w/ a couple of scripts in /usr/local/bin.  0verkill-server & 0verkill.  The package is now installed into /usr/local/share/0verkill.  The scripts just cd into that directory & start the server/client whichever you've ran.
Title: New compiles/Away for quite sometime
Post by: helf on August 11, 2008, 01:36:15 am
wooo! yet another reason to get my internet turned back on soon :)

thanks! :D
Title: New compiles/Away for quite sometime
Post by: kb7sqi on August 11, 2008, 03:30:45 am
New updated package: msmtp-1.4.16

Take care.
Title: New compiles/Away for quite sometime
Post by: kb7sqi on August 11, 2008, 09:31:22 pm
New port: kermit-8.0.211

See it's homepage for more info:
http://www.columbia.edu/kermit/ck80.html

This is a clean port of kermit for the NeXT w/ support for SRP/OPENSSL/ZLIB/NCURSES.

The primary reason for the port is that it has built in support for SRP & OPENSSL security with the ability to use ZLIB compression.  Which means you can use this to connect to a secured telnet/ftp server which has SRP/SSL enabled.  I tested it against the SRP telnetd that I have enabled & it works great.  Which may make you wonder why that hasn't been posted yet.  Well, there's 2 bugs.  One requires either a. a hack to get the system to update the netinfo db properly or b. I need the source for the NeXT's passwd.c which is actually comprised of a few files.  I don't see that happening so, I'm working on option A.   The second reason is I need to fix a bug in the ftp/ftpd area. It's compiled clean, connects, will do a directory listing but fails to put/get a file.  I know how to fix it, just working out the proper fix.  Enjoy.  Take care.
Title: New compiles/Away for quite sometime
Post by: kb7sqi on August 15, 2008, 03:42:54 am
First: New port: rxvt-2.6.4 This is a color VT102 Terminal designed to be a replacement for xterm.  So, it's for X11/CubX. :-)  It's not Cables,  but is much nicer than the xterm that comes w/ CubX.  Enjoy.  

Second.  FIXED Port: textutils-2.0  I can't believe nobody noticed this one.  Commands like md5sum didn't work correctly on x86.  :shock:  I screwed up on that one & forgot to make sure to set the ENDIAN Flag properly when compiling on multiple arch's.  Oops.  I can't believe I didn't notice it early also. LOL.  Oh well.  It's fixed and the commands work properly again.  Sorry about that.  Take care.
Title: New compiles/Away for quite sometime
Post by: kb7sqi on August 18, 2008, 06:15:36 am
Updated port: Postfix-2.5.4 w/ TLS support.

Since Postfix requires additional steps to install, I've compiled this & posted it in the ns3.3_quadfat directory as in the past.  This is a clean port, but it took a little more work then what used to be needed.  Oh well, it's compiled & linked against OpenSSL/Zlib for TLS support if needed.  It's not turned on by default, but there if you would like to use it.  See the ReadMe.NeXT in the top directory.  I'm successfully running it on one of my x86 laptops.  I've still got to upgrade the rest of the boxes over the next few days.  ;-) It's something that has needed to be updated a while ago.  Sorry, for the delay.  Take care & enjoy.
Title: New compiles/Away for quite sometime
Post by: kb7sqi on August 19, 2008, 04:08:28 am
Updated package: tcsh-6.13.00

I've had tcsh-6.12.00 compiled for quite sometime but never got around to making a package.   :cry:   Anyway, 6.14.00 & 6.15.00 have some new POSIX stuff added, so I did a quick compile of 6.13.00.  It's quad-fat/packaged/posted on the site.  I've used it on x86/sparc so it works. :-)  Enjoy.  I plan on getting 6.15 working when I get more time.  Take care.
Title: Compiler Tool
Post by: devocite on August 22, 2008, 07:56:09 pm
Life Story: I was born a poor college student, during the reign of the NeXT.  I use to spend hours in the NeXT labs at the U of Mo.  When NeXT released their x86 port of 3.1 (later upgraded to 3.3) I scrapped every dime to buy it, so I could sit in my dorm and wow all my Engineering, and Computer Sci. buds with my NeXT.  The painful part, to compile, I still had to hoof to the lab, compile stuff, and sneaker net it back to my dorm.
This lack of compiler tools drove me to switch to NetBSD 0.8 (mostly because of the NeXT roots), and before I knew it, my beloved NeXT 3.3 could not deal with the all the new hardware, and still no compiler tools...
After I got a 'real' job and started making 'real' money, I contacted NeXT to buy the full version of OpenStep with developer tools and all, but at that point they were not interested in selling stuff, as they were transitioning to Apple.
<whining over>
These days I still run NetBSD, and because I still can't get enough of the NeXT UI, I run the Windowmaker Window Manager, to this day.
I recently pulled out the old CD, and loaded NS 3.3 x86 under QEMU and VMworkstation, and thought Windowmaker tried very hard to emulate the look of NeXT, the look of the real thing is just magical.

My point, to a long story (sorry guys) what compiler tools are available for the NeXT?
GCC?  I do a lot of porting of software for NetBSD's pkgsrc, and would love to give the NeXT/OpenStep a little love.

i.e. I see links, but porting elinks would be a sweet move forward, or even taking a stable at some more ambitious projects.

I've been out of the NeXT loop for 12+ years and I am just looking for a starting point.

- jam
Title: Re: Compiler Tool
Post by: kb7sqi on August 22, 2008, 08:55:50 pm
Quote from: "devocite"Life Story: I was born a poor college student, during the reign of the NeXT.  I use to spend hours in the NeXT labs at the U of Mo.  When NeXT released their x86 port of 3.1 (later upgraded to 3.3) I scrapped every dime to buy it, so I could sit in my dorm and wow all my Engineering, and Computer Sci. buds with my NeXT.  The painful part, to compile, I still had to hoof to the lab, compile stuff, and sneaker net it back to my dorm.
This lack of compiler tools drove me to switch to NetBSD 0.8 (mostly because of the NeXT roots), and before I knew it, my beloved NeXT 3.3 could not deal with the all the new hardware, and still no compiler tools...
After I got a 'real' job and started making 'real' money, I contacted NeXT to buy the full version of OpenStep with developer tools and all, but at that point they were not interested in selling stuff, as they were transitioning to Apple.
<whining over>
These days I still run NetBSD, and because I still can't get enough of the NeXT UI, I run the Windowmaker Window Manager, to this day.
I recently pulled out the old CD, and loaded NS 3.3 x86 under QEMU and VMworkstation, and thought Windowmaker tried very hard to emulate the look of NeXT, the look of the real thing is just magical.

My point, to a long story (sorry guys) what compiler tools are available for the NeXT?
GCC?  I do a lot of porting of software for NetBSD's pkgsrc, and would love to give the NeXT/OpenStep a little love.

i.e. I see links, but porting elinks would be a sweet move forward, or even taking a stable at some more ambitious projects.

I've been out of the NeXT loop for 12+ years and I am just looking for a starting point.

- jam


Hi Jam,
   Welcome to the forums!  Something like pkgsrc for NEXTSTEP/OPENSTEP would be great, but the problem is how bad/out dated the *BSD core is.  NEXTSTEP/OPENSTEP are based on BSD4.3. The POSIX situation is pretty sad also. ;-)  It's broken/buggy.  Now saying all that, is it possible to get stuff to compile?  Sure, I compile stuff all the time.  :lol:  Some stuff will compile pretty easily, but most take some work.  Sometimes it's simple as adding a few #defines to the source, etc.  Other times, it can be a major pain in the *ss.  It all depends on what you're trying to compile.  I still compile stuff because I still enjoy it & I hate seeing a good NeXT system go to waste.  ;-)
     If you have NEXTSTEP 3.3 User installed, you still need the 3.3 Developer to be able to compile anything.  The Developer CD contains all the system headers, compiler, libraries, etc.  Once you have that installed, then it's true, you can use a newer port of egcs/gcc upto 2.95.3.  That's the last compiler that supports NEXTSTEP/OPENSTEP.  Personally I try to stick to the stock compilers that comes w/ NEXTSTEP 3.3, which is NeXT's version of gcc-2.5.8.  Yeah, it's old! :-)  The compiler that comes w/ OPENSTEP 4.2 is 2.7.2.1.  Why stick to the stock compilers?  Well, that way you can compile software triple/quad fat!  I do most of my compiling on an x86 system & then test on my other boxes. As far as where to start, if you want to try to port elinks, that'd be great! :-)  I have links/lynx/w3m working on my systems another text browser is always welcome.  My port of links is compiled against x11,png,jpeg,tiff, etc. so if you have CubX installed run it w/ the -g flag.  It's not firefox, but it does work pretty well.  If I need more than that, I just use firefox from one my many Solaris boxes/Linux boxes.  If you start working on elinks & need help feel free to ask.  Hope that helps.  Take care.
Title: Re: Compiler Tool
Post by: devocite on August 25, 2008, 01:25:57 pm
Quote from: "kb7sqi"Hi Jam,
   Welcome to the forums!


Thank you!

Quote from: "kb7sqi"
 Something like pkgsrc for NEXTSTEP/OPENSTEP would be great, but the problem is how bad/out dated the *BSD core is are based on BSD4.3.


NetBSD is based on this lineage, so I'm very familiar with the BSD kernel, in general.  I'm guesing that if I get the full devoper edition, the kernel code in included and if I run into some issues, I may be able to 'fix' stuff as needed.  Also, NetBSD has an amazing kernel compatability, even for legacy 4.3 BSD, so who knows what sort of fun stuff I can get into.

I think for general apps, it would be doable.  That said, the pkgsrc system has a mechanism for building dependencies based on OS build, but that is a topic for another day...  

Quote from: "kb7sqi"NEXTSTEP/OPENSTEP  The POSIX situation is pretty sad also. ;-)  It's broken/buggy.


Yeah, NetBSD, until recently, didn't have POSIX threads, so I became very familar with pthreads, which I noticed was up on your file site :)

QuoteNow saying all that, is it possible to get stuff to compile?  Sure, I compile stuff all the time.  :lol:  Some stuff will compile pretty easily, but most take some work.  Sometimes it's simple as adding a few #defines to the source, etc.  Other times, it can be a major pain in the *ss.  It all depends on what you're trying to compile.  I still compile stuff because I still enjoy it & I hate seeing a good NeXT system go to waste.  ;-)


Yes, I suffer from this syndrome too...  I have a HP 713, a couple of Microvax IIs, a Decstation 240, and a SGI, all which I tend to rotate use on.   My wife thinks I'm crazy, but she has her scrapbook hobbies, I have my hardware hobbies.  Besides, I just love a good challenge :D

QuoteIf you have NEXTSTEP 3.3 User installed, you still need the 3.3 Developer to be able to compile anything.  The Developer CD contains all the system headers, compiler, libraries, etc.  Once you have that installed, then it's true, you can use a newer port of egcs/gcc upto 2.95.3.  That's the last compiler that supports NEXTSTEP/OPENSTEP.  Personally I try to stick to the stock compilers that comes w/ NEXTSTEP 3.3, which is NeXT's version of gcc-2.5.8.  Yeah, it's old! :-)  The compiler that comes w/ OPENSTEP 4.2 is 2.7.2.1.  Why stick to the stock compilers?  Well, that way you can compile software triple/quad fat!


Good info!  I guess I will begin watching Ebay for a developer edition of NeXT/OPENSTEP x86, because I'm sure if Apple was unwilling to sell me a copy in the '90s, I'm sure they have no intentions now! :(
Unless someone, on the board, has a copy to sell :)

QuoteIf you start working on elinks & need help feel free to ask.  Hope that helps.  Take care.


Thank you for your time, I'm sure we will be talking again.

- jam
Title: New compiles/Away for quite sometime
Post by: kb7sqi on August 25, 2008, 04:24:54 pm
Updated Misc Compile for Sparc only really.  The one screensaver I love most for NEXTSTEP/OPENSTEP is LizardView.  Back when my oldest son was born, he could stare at it for hours. ;-)  It comes pre-compiled for i386/m68k/hppa, but not for sparc.  I never took the time to really look @ why it failed to compile on NEXTSTEP 3.3 before.  So, after asking Leo to look at it,  I looked at it more.  The fix was easy.  :shock:   I just had to look at how never BackSpace modules were compiled & make a minor change to the source.  Anyway, I'm thrilled to have it working on my Sparc besides my other boxes.  I've thrown it up in the misc section on my web site.  It's compiled quad-fat now.  Just install it like any other BackSpace module.  The one funny thing about this BackSpace module is now, over 8 years later, both my sons & my wife love staring at it. rofl.  Take care.
Title: New compiles/Away for quite sometime
Post by: kb7sqi on August 26, 2008, 11:34:03 pm
Updated pkg: climm-0.6.3

This update gets climm working again.  I hadn't used ICQ on my systems in a while so I hadn't noticed it wasn't working.  Sorry about that.  Anyway, it's compiled quad-fat/posted like normal.  Take care.
Title: New compiles/Away for quite sometime
Post by: kb7sqi on September 29, 2008, 01:52:16 am
Ok, it's been a while since I've had a chance to compile anything.  I had a personal request so I took some time today to try to compile something. ;-)

If you look in the intel & hppa directories on the web server you'll find a package called schilly-1.0.  This is actually a combo package of smake-1.2a41, star-1.5 & cdrtools-2.01.01a50.  The gecko version is for NEXTSTEP 3.3 and I'm sorry, but the x86 version is only compiled for OPENSTEP 4.2 right now.  Now in saying that, using smake to compile something makes it kinda difficult to do quad-fat compiles.  That's the reason for the single packages & I was needing to compile on NEXTSTEP & OPENSTEP.  All three of these individual packages really compile clean w/ out much trouble.  star-1.5 is the only one that has a problem.  So if you need one of these, right away, I suggest you give it a shot.  Once you have smake compiled, & it compiles out of the box, cdrtools is a clean compile also.  Anyway, once I have some more free time, I'll compile each one individually & then lipo them all together & make proper packages.  I just wanted to get what I had out there.  Hope they come in handy.  I'll try to get quad packages in the next week or so.  Sorry, works been extremely busy.  Take care.
Title: New compiles/Away for quite sometime
Post by: kb7sqi on January 15, 2009, 07:59:48 pm
Wow, it's hard to believe it's been since Sept, since I updated this thread. :-(  Anyway, as promised, I had some free time yesterday/today & had a chance to compile the latest version of OpenSSL-0.9.8j.  This was a security update.  So, I didn't want to wait till the end of the month.  So, here's the updates/re-compiles against the lastest version. :-)  More to come as time permits:

openssl-0.9.8j-zlib-1.2.3.combo package
openssl-3.6.1p2
apache-1.3.41
climm-0.6.3
fetchmail-5.9.13
links-2.1pre19
msmtp-1.4.17 <-- updated package as well.
stunnel-4.26   <-- updated package as well.

Everything is in the packages directory & compiled quad-fat like always.  And like the last version of OpenSSL I compiled, it's compiled against zlib-1.2.3.  So if you want to compile something against it, you have to link against -lz as well in /usr/local/lib. :-)  Enjoy.  I hope everyone had a great holiday season.  Take care.
Title: New compiles/Away for quite sometime
Post by: NeXTnewbe on January 31, 2009, 05:07:34 pm
Quote from: "kb7sqi"Wow, it's hard to believe it's been since Sept, since I updated this thread. :-(  Anyway, as promised, I had some free time yesterday/today & had a chance to compile the latest version of OpenSSL-0.9.8j.  This was a security update.  So, I didn't want to wait till the end of the month.  So, here's the updates/re-compiles against the lastest version. :-)  More to come as time permits:

openssl-0.9.8j-zlib-1.2.3.combo package
openssl-3.6.1p2
apache-1.3.41
climm-0.6.3
fetchmail-5.9.13
links-2.1pre19
msmtp-1.4.17 <-- updated package as well.
stunnel-4.26   <-- updated package as well.

Everything is in the packages directory & compiled quad-fat like always.  And like the last version of OpenSSL I compiled, it's compiled against zlib-1.2.3.  So if you want to compile something against it, you have to link against -lz as well in /usr/local/lib. :-)  Enjoy.  I hope everyone had a great holiday season.  Take care.



arghh!!! I just update the apache and is not working anymore, how can I fix it , please
Title: New compiles/Away for quite sometime
Post by: kb7sqi on March 15, 2009, 08:31:27 am
Hi all,
   I know there's a few ICQ users here so I need your help especially if you're over in Europe. :-)  Can you give the new climm-0.6.4 package a try & see if your user lists are showing up properly while using the program.  The reason I'm asking is because I know linmag7 has been having problems w/ the last version 0.6.3, but I'm pretty sure this is because of some changes that deal w/ ICQ.  Anyway, my list of ICQ users is pretty small these days & I didn't see anyone on now here @ 04:30 this morning.  The new version is compiled quad fat like always & in the normal packages directory.  Thanks for testing.  Take care!
Title: New compiles/Away for quite sometime
Post by: kb7sqi on March 16, 2009, 04:19:18 am
Quote from: "kb7sqi"Hi all,
   I know there's a few ICQ users here so I need your help especially if you're over in Europe. :-)  Can you give the new climm-0.6.4 package a try & see if your user lists are showing up properly while using the program.  The reason I'm asking is because I know linmag7 has been having problems w/ the last version 0.6.3, but I'm pretty sure this is because of some changes that deal w/ ICQ.  Anyway, my list of ICQ users is pretty small these days & I didn't see anyone on now here @ 04:30 this morning.  The new version is compiled quad fat like always & in the normal packages directory.  Thanks for testing.  Take care!


I wanted to add on this & let everyone know if you have problems seeing people in your list of ICQ users, you need to edit your ~/.climm/climmrc file similar to this:

[Server]
type icq8 auto
version 8
host login.icq.com
port 5190
screen 9248680
password ***********
status online
# options ignore off wantsbl on obeysbl on   <--------- Notice the pound sign. :-)

The options line in the Server config part of the file preventing the "few" users I had online on my list to not show up.  Once I put the # in front of the line, everything was fine.  I spent the day on ICQ today, changing my password, updating my profile, chatting w/ a few friends, and no further problems.  So, I hope this helps.  I wasn't sure if it was a climm issue or a porting problem.  Since I saw the issues also on OpenSolaris, Solaris 10, Linux & NetBSD, I figured it had to be something else since there really isn't a lot of changes required to get climm working on NEXTSTEP/OPENSTEP.  Take care.
Title: New compiles/Away for quite sometime
Post by: jaallen on December 10, 2009, 08:52:18 pm
This guy had a lot of stuff that is needed, to even try to get a good modern system out of Next these days, and now he is just gone? He did alot of awesome work! I think its great. But why on earth keep it to yourself, and/or have no way of getting them now???????

The files are gone? WTF.

Blows. Does anyone have or was able to grab some of his packages? He did some really incredible ports, and has my full respect for doing this for us, but why not put them somewhere or ask to put them somewhere before he shut down, he actually complained about it, so he could have hosted them here!

I am mostly interested in the postfix, openssl, msmtp stuff he compiled.

Reason is, I am setting up a site, that will have full instructions for a more modern and secure NeXTSTEP3.3 and OpenSTEP4.2 installations, and the full downloads to do it step by step and get it all working, with links to branch off in what way you want it to work, and instr to do the same.

I am also almost complete in a new web browser, using mozilla c source to the Objc libs.

But, I really need some of this guys libraries. And maybe even his help. I PMed him a while ago, but he has not replied. I really dont want to clutter my head up compiling and moving off of Objc to compile this stuff, that was done pretty well already.

Did anyone make a CD or something of his files? I will pay to have a cd shipped witht this stuff on it to me.

Thanks.
Title: New compiles/Away for quite sometime
Post by: helf on December 10, 2009, 11:10:51 pm
I made a backup of his site before it went offline. I'm leaving for a week long trip in two days, so it'll probably be after Christmas before I can get to creating a torrent or whatever of it all.

If Nitro is up for it, I can upload everything to the forums archives. I'll have to ask him about that. Its ~1.6gb or something like that.
Title: New compiles/Away for quite sometime
Post by: jaallen on December 11, 2009, 12:22:30 am
Helf,

as I said in another thread, that is great and thank god, this fellow had ALOT of good stuff we can use, especially today...

I can wait, but I am sure Nitro has asked for this archive before, so I hope he allows the transfer for others.

If not, I have no problem grabbing a dvd for a fee from you. Though I would like to see others get them as well.
Title: New compiles/Away for quite sometime
Post by: oneNeXT on December 11, 2009, 08:42:01 pm
Quote from: "jaallen"
I am also almost complete in a new web browser, using mozilla c source to the Objc libs.

Can you share this code ?
Title: New compiles/Away for quite sometime
Post by: jaallen on December 11, 2009, 09:03:21 pm
Of course I will, when done and working.
Title: New compiles/Away for quite sometime
Post by: helf on December 11, 2009, 09:13:13 pm
Oh, man. A new browser would be amazing :)

I'll let everyone know when I get back from my trip and can root out the backup.
Title: New compiles/Away for quite sometime
Post by: jaallen on December 12, 2009, 03:48:36 am
Yeah, I know it sounds funky, but I have been wrestling with what libs available I can link and run with, what I have from the FreeBSD archives and recent to run with, lots of source pruning for the bulk of what I need, and what I dont (ala gtk inbred in the  source, to match my functions in OBJC in the frameworks). Not to mention display postscript I had to work with on some parts.

Its been a hobby of mine for about a year, and I still have some lib problems when it comes to java piping, and a SSL snag, but I do have the NIB and interface up, and the framework for the mozilla engine. You guys have no idea how much external work and libs and modules it takes to just get something working nowadays, well, I think you all do actually.

I do what I can as a fun project, most say I will never get it done, but recently showed someone what I have and they thought it might fly, but then they laugh and say "why NeXT sh$t Jeff, its a waste".

I tell them, its still present, as I log in to OSX, then tell them nothing will be as fun and elegant, and as powerful as 'step.

If I win, then I am off to a more modern mail client. I then do not know anything about licensing any of this either, but then again, does it matter until its ready anyway...
Title: New compiles/Away for quite sometime
Post by: oneNeXT on January 12, 2010, 06:00:04 pm
Quote from: "jaallen"Reason is, I am setting up a site, that will have full instructions for a more modern and secure NeXTSTEP3.3 and OpenSTEP4.2 installations, and the full downloads to do it step by step and get it all working, with links to branch off in what way you want it to work, and instr to do the same.
Thanks.


Do you mean that you consider making a kind of SystemUpgrade package that will contain some libraries you talked about, and some other.. ?
Title: New compiles/Away for quite sometime
Post by: jaallen on January 12, 2010, 06:03:11 pm
Exactly.

One stop shop PKG. Will include the updated modified mail.app additions that are working great for me and the new native browser I am working on. Although, I can see why more than one can only handle coding a browser. I may not be enough for the time I have, and knowledge background. Its really rough. I do not know how much I can do alone for that. Only two frameworks down and still a huge amount to do. Plus staying within OpenStep and gnustep at the same time might kill me. But I will keep plugging away.

I may have to go underground on some code lic from Mozilla, but, I m not sure how that will be accepted when I submit, or the ssl framework since I am pulling from OpenSSL should be ok.

I just wonder if going native is good for performance,(pulling in frameworks via new classes) then contained, but I wouldn't be able to handle all the code for the gtk of what is available in mozilla source. I am still banging my head on this, and can see why no-one has tried. And going by Debian and Firefox wars, how it will be acepted for Gnustep, but then again, they can just run the firefox package with the gtk set now, probably wont touch it, which is why I am going the Omni way, my own write. But it looks to be why Omni was always so slow, overhead of the frameworks and load of classes, not even the gnustep builds at this point am I looking at (will do both or not at all). I am not sure, but looks it. So if I get further, and things end up slow, I am dropping it, and may just focus on an existing port instead.
Title: New compiles/Away for quite sometime
Post by: NeXTsociety on May 15, 2010, 12:38:38 am
Any new progress on the web browser?

tj

Quote from: "jaallen"Exactly.

One stop shop PKG. Will include the updated modified mail.app additions that are working great for me and the new native browser I am working on. Although, I can see why more than one can only handle coding a browser. I may not be enough for the time I have, and knowledge background. Its really rough. I do not know how much I can do alone for that. Only two frameworks down and still a huge amount to do. Plus staying within OpenStep and gnustep at the same time might kill me. But I will keep plugging away.

I may have to go underground on some code lic from Mozilla, but, I m not sure how that will be accepted when I submit, or the ssl framework since I am pulling from OpenSSL should be ok.

I just wonder if going native is good for performance,(pulling in frameworks via new classes) then contained, but I wouldn't be able to handle all the code for the gtk of what is available in mozilla source. I am still banging my head on this, and can see why no-one has tried. And going by Debian and Firefox wars, how it will be acepted for Gnustep, but then again, they can just run the firefox package with the gtk set now, probably wont touch it, which is why I am going the Omni way, my own write. But it looks to be why Omni was always so slow, overhead of the frameworks and load of classes, not even the gnustep builds at this point am I looking at (will do both or not at all). I am not sure, but looks it. So if I get further, and things end up slow, I am dropping it, and may just focus on an existing port instead.
Title: New compiles/Away for quite sometime
Post by: StainlessSteelRat on May 27, 2010, 11:04:13 am
kb7sqi, are you still around? been missing OS4.2 + CubX(can't say I miss xnext on rhapsody) a bit, would like to start building some apps... seems like I can't reach your site. any chance I can get a look at some of your ports? I never did get any version of gtk+ going properly, for sure.

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oh, I can give you admin access to the old mach-ports google code page, if you need a place to host stuff.
Title: New compiles/Away for quite sometime
Post by: kb7sqi on May 30, 2010, 11:48:34 pm
Quote from: "StainlessSteelRat"kb7sqi, are you still around? been missing OS4.2 + CubX(can't say I miss xnext on rhapsody) a bit, would like to start building some apps... seems like I can't reach your site. any chance I can get a look at some of your ports? I never did get any version of gtk+ going properly, for sure.

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oh, I can give you admin access to the old mach-ports google code page, if you need a place to host stuff.


Yeah, I'm still around, but I haven't had time to do anything the past several months.  The hard drive died in the web server, aka my Sparc 5 running OPENSTEP.  :wink:  I haven't had the time to install a new drive.  I have most everything backed up, but it'd be great if someone would be willing to host everything I have in the archives.  It's right around 8-10 gigs including everything from the SFTP server also.    Take care.

Steve.
Title: New compiles/Away for quite sometime
Post by: kb7sqi on June 02, 2010, 01:18:01 am
Just FYI, I've started the process of updating packages.  :wink:  Once I get the "core" updated, I'll be posting packages.   Quite a few need to be updated   like zlib, openssl, etc.  More to come.  Take care.

Steve
Title: New compiles/Away for quite sometime
Post by: oneNeXT on June 02, 2010, 11:08:00 pm
Quote from: "kb7sqi"Quite a few need to be updated   like zlib, openssl, etc.  More to come.Steve


What do you think about making a compilation of many libs in one package ?
Title: New compiles/Away for quite sometime
Post by: StainlessSteelRat on June 10, 2010, 10:01:44 am
thanks, Steve. I'm actually going to start messing with mosxs 1.2 and osx 10.0 and then see what I can do with os4.2 x86. can't wait to see what you've been up to.

oneNext, create a thread with your ideas about a compilation and I'll help out. I can port and package, but, unfortuanately, only have access to PPC and x86 hardware to build and test.
Title: New compiles/Away for quite sometime
Post by: oneNeXT on June 17, 2010, 07:18:36 pm
Quote from: "StainlessSteelRat"oneNext, create a thread with your ideas about a compilation and I'll help out. I can port and package, but, unfortuanately, only have access to PPC and x86 hardware to build and test.


Thanks for your help, i should also be able to test on m68k.
Title: New compiles/Away for quite sometime
Post by: itomato on July 21, 2010, 01:07:52 am
Quote from: "oneNeXT"
Quote from: "kb7sqi"Quite a few need to be updated   like zlib, openssl, etc.  More to come.Steve


What do you think about making a compilation of many libs in one package ?


4.2 Patch 5 :)  I think you would have more hands than work!
Title: New compiles/Away for quite sometime
Post by: kb7sqi on July 21, 2010, 06:04:59 am
Quote from: "itomato"
Quote from: "oneNeXT"
Quote from: "kb7sqi"Quite a few need to be updated   like zlib, openssl, etc.  More to come.Steve


What do you think about making a compilation of many libs in one package ?


4.2 Patch 5 :)  I think you would have more hands than work!


There's one BIG problem on working on a compilation of many libs in one huge package for NEXTSTEP 3.3.  That problem being that things have to be compiled statically instead of using "shared" libs.  So let's say you compile zlib, openssl, and then openssh, or pine, apache, or a better perfect example of a simpile command line/x11 browser like links2.  There's a security bug for zlib.  Now you have to go back re-compile zlib, if openssl is linked against it like my version is, then you have to recompile that, then finally you can recompile main program openssh, pine, apache, etc.  This take time.  Just to put together the openssl package for NS3.3/OS4.2 take quite a bit of time because you have to compile it for each architecture seperately & then lipo everything together.  Most stuff don't require that, but there are some programs that do.  

Sure I'm going to re-compile/link everything again doing individual packages like I do now, but doing it this way, I can at least get the most "important" ones done first & then worry about the other ones as I "need" them or have time to compile them.  When you throw everything in one big mega package, you'd be rebuilding it all the time. lol.  

Over the last few weeks as I've had time, I have updated zlib, openssl, openssh, pine, msmtp, fetchmail, stunnel, zip, unzip, ported curl, etc.  I created a few packages of stuff I hadn't made packages for in the past.  I've sent most of those via email to a few forum members.  One of them should be making them available for download soon.  In what little other spare time I have, I've been working on completing DVD images, getting DHCP working 100% on all 4 architectures, not just x86/m68k and trying to pin down a strange bug in newer version of both sendmail & postfix I haven't seen before.   I'm around, but I've just been extremely busy.  Take care.

Steve
Title: New compiles/Away for quite sometime
Post by: gregwtmtno on August 29, 2011, 04:14:22 pm
Hey guys,

I know I'm late to the party here, but does anyone have the software that kb7sqi was able to port? The link to his dyndns thing doesn't seem to respond at all. I've been trying to compile as many GNU tools as possible on my own but its slow going.

Thanks in advance!
Title: New compiles/Away for quite sometime
Post by: gregwtmtno on August 29, 2011, 07:25:59 pm
For anyone who comes across this thread in the future, someone was kind enough to make the builds available to me. I don't have the bandwidth to make them public, but feel free to PM me and I'll do the same for you.
Title: New compiles/Away for quite sometime
Post by: oneNeXT on September 01, 2011, 06:53:12 pm
Did you update some build ?
Title: New compiles/Away for quite sometime
Post by: eagle on September 14, 2011, 10:20:13 am
Quote from: "gregwtmtno"For anyone who comes across this thread in the future, someone was kind enough to make the builds available to me. I don't have the bandwidth to make them public, but feel free to PM me and I'll do the same for you.

I have the bandwidth and the space for them.  I was just waiting on kb7sqi to send me his files, but I haven't gotten them yet.  If you can send them to me, I can put them online for all to have.
Title: New compiles/Away for quite sometime
Post by: nextchef on September 14, 2011, 09:17:55 pm
I am still seeding the torrent of his compiles from back in 2009.  See the forum thread below for more info, and a link to the torrent file.

http://www.nextcomputers.org/forums/viewtopic.php?t=2330
Title: New compiles/Away for quite sometime
Post by: NeXTnewbe on November 04, 2011, 11:16:49 pm
i did try to use your torrent, whithout luck
Title: New compiles/Away for quite sometime
Post by: Morgon on November 07, 2011, 10:23:21 pm
Quote from: "NeXTnewbe"i did try to use your torrent, whithout luck


It did work for me last weekend. I put the torrent into the queue around Saturday evening. Had my PC of over night, turned it back on Sunday morning and in the afternoon I had everything.

Seeding myself now, when my PC is on. But note that I haven't downloaded the HP, SUN and Motorola only binaries. And I have a quite limited upload.
Title: New compiles/Away for quite sometime
Post by: NeXTnewbe on November 07, 2011, 10:32:52 pm
Quote from: "Morgon"
Quote from: "NeXTnewbe"i did try to use your torrent, whithout luck


It did work for me last weekend. I put the torrent into the queue around Saturday evening. Had my PC of over night, turned it back on Sunday morning and in the afternoon I had everything.

Seeding myself now, when my PC is on. But note that I haven't downloaded the HP, SUN and Motorola only binaries. And I have a quite limited upload.

#

thanks but can't see your seed
Title: New compiles/Away for quite sometime
Post by: Morgon on November 08, 2011, 10:35:41 pm
hmm, that's strange. I'm using ktorrent on Linux and there was no problem seeding when I got the openSuse images via torrent.

I see that there is a leecher but there is no upload happening. I really have no idea what is going wrong. I'm sorry.
Title: New compiles/Away for quite sometime
Post by: nextchef on November 09, 2011, 09:51:02 pm
My seed is back up.  It apparently died over the weekend, but should be good now.
Title: New compiles/Away for quite sometime
Post by: NeXTnewbe on November 10, 2011, 09:19:17 pm
great!!

I can see just one seed, :( but very low speed, and keep dropping
Title: New compiles/Away for quite sometime
Post by: nextchef on November 11, 2011, 04:39:40 pm
I am seeding at 1Mbit, so transfers should be fast from my end.  I currently have no peers connected to me, but do see 2 seeders in the swarm.  The public trackers can get overloaded, so it may take a bit to get everything connected properly.

24 GB shared so far, so someone is getting it.
Title: New compiles/Away for quite sometime
Post by: dpny on November 29, 2011, 08:51:27 pm
I'm currently seeding the files, too.
Title: New compiles/Away for quite sometime
Post by: roytam1 on March 31, 2012, 12:39:41 pm
I wonder if someone still seeding it?
Title: Long Time No Type!
Post by: kb7sqi on June 06, 2014, 01:59:45 pm
Hey all,
   I'm still very busy these days w/ work, but I've started uploading my old packages & some new stuff to my Google Drive.  I'll be sorting/adding more over the next few weeks.  Here's the URL:

https://t.co/CNszTmVHvX

Take care

Steve, kb7sqi
Title: Re: Long Time No Type!
Post by: mikeboss on June 06, 2014, 05:33:31 pm
Quote from: "kb7sqi"Hey all,
   I'm still very busy these days w/ work, but I've started uploading my old packages & some new stuff to my Google Drive.  I'll be sorting/adding more over the next few weeks.  Here's the URL:

https://t.co/CNszTmVHvX

Take care

Steve, kb7sqi


awesome, thanks for sharing (again)!

regards,
michael
Title: New compiles/Away for quite sometime
Post by: gaspar on June 07, 2014, 05:29:16 am
+1 Thanks for Sharing!!
Title: Re: Long Time No Type!
Post by: NeXTnewbe on June 08, 2014, 05:58:23 pm
Quote from: "kb7sqi"Hey all,
   I'm still very busy these days w/ work, but I've started uploading my old packages & some new stuff to my Google Drive.  I'll be sorting/adding more over the next few weeks.  Here's the URL:

https://t.co/CNszTmVHvX

Take care

Steve, kb7sqi


Wellcome back!!!
Title: New compiles/Away for quite sometime
Post by: eagle on July 18, 2015, 02:53:23 pm
Thanks for posting your updated link.  I had been trying unsuccessfully to build tcsh and other things, and now I found the compiled packages... much easier that way.  :D

I am going to add Google Drive sync to my NAS, so that I always have the latest copy of your files. :D