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Apple, Inc. => Apple Hardware => Topic started by: Jenne on August 27, 2008, 08:11:04 am

Title: Apple Network Server 500/132
Post by: Jenne on August 27, 2008, 08:11:04 am
Well, here it is! I made some first photographs of my new box. Indeed it´s in mint condition: no scratches, all original hardware and working!

Front view with the drive lid closed:

(http://www.blackmac.ch/webimages/a01.jpg)

The original 2 GB Seagate drive with the Apple label on it:

(http://www.blackmac.ch/webimages/a02.jpg)

The drive bay with the harddisk pulled off the rack:

(http://www.blackmac.ch/webimages/a03.jpg)

The front lock / switch. This one is strange: you have to turn it in some predefined positions in order to install AIX, modifying the hard- or software and locking the drives and the lid:

(http://www.blackmac.ch/webimages/a04.jpg)

The innards behind the left fan. This is the connector board for the drive bays. The ANS pre-defines the SCSI IDs of the bays from top to bottom, from "1" to "7" - no SCSI jumpers to be attached to any drive:

(http://www.blackmac.ch/webimages/a05.jpg)

The writing on the processor board:

(http://www.blackmac.ch/webimages/a06.jpg)

The main board pulled off the case. You have to unlock that bay and if you do so the server immediatly shuts down:

(http://www.blackmac.ch/webimages/a07.jpg)

Another front view, lid open:

(http://www.blackmac.ch/webimages/a08.jpg)

The back pane with the connectors:

(http://www.blackmac.ch/webimages/a09.jpg)

One of the three keys. The other side shows three numbers hammered to the metal body of the key (not shown ;-)):

(http://www.blackmac.ch/webimages/a10.jpg)

First impression of AIX after installing the BOS and additional software packages:

(http://www.blackmac.ch/webimages/a11.jpg)

Well, just first impressions. I noticed that AIX is quite difficult to configure, but the box itself is such a fine and well designed piece of hardware that I´m going to read all the necessary manuals ;-)

J
Title: Apple Network Server 500/132
Post by: kb7sqi on August 27, 2008, 09:24:49 am
That's a really nice/clean box!  Congrats again Jenne.  Thanks for the pics. ;-)  And I'm glad AIX loaded on it ok.  Take care.
Title: Apple Network Server 500/132
Post by: helf on August 27, 2008, 02:24:14 pm
nice! Congrats on getting one finally :)

Now I really want one...
Title: Apple Network Server 500/132
Post by: Jenne on August 27, 2008, 04:57:43 pm
Thanks for the congratulations! Indeed, the longer this box stands besides my desk the more I begin to love it =) But I just discovered something funny: I used the diagnostic tools today which at a certain stage shows the date of manufacturing: 28.8.1996 - so this ANS has it´s twelveth birthday tomorrow :)

J
Title: Apple Network Server 500/132
Post by: slomacuser on August 27, 2008, 08:28:15 pm
the machine looks great but the AIX ... very un apple style (I know it is IBM's)
it would be much greater, if apple would use some PPC OPENSTEP/RHAPSODY technology on that  :o
Title: next connection
Post by: cubist on August 28, 2008, 03:39:00 am
Quote from: "Jenne"Thanks for the congratulations! Indeed, the longer this box stands besides my desk the more I begin to love it =)

The desktop UI on that is CDE which actually has a few NeXT influences.  If you have the development tools there should be a design app (dtbuilder?).  Very much in the Interface Builder mold (to the extent possible with the languages and tools).
Title: Apple Network Server 500/132
Post by: neozeed on August 28, 2008, 04:58:36 am
Cool box, I heard about them a while back, but I had an RS/6000 and the whole time I had to laugh, thinking of Apple+AIX...

This was before the whole NeXT thing though, and I guess they were thinking of a PPC SYSVr4 that would get them back into the unix market after they let AU/X languish....

Which reminds me I need to get a SCSI disk for my Quadra 700.......
Title: Apple Network Server 500/132
Post by: Jenne on August 28, 2008, 05:15:44 am
Quote from: "neozeed"Which reminds me I need to get a SCSI disk for my Quadra 700.......


I just re-installed A/UX on my Quadra some weeks ago. I like this strange UNIX. What size of HD do You need?

Yes, AIX seems to have some influences from NeXT. Although it's not very Mac-like it has some advantages. I decided not to intsall Yellow Dog Linux (which I can handle a bit better) but stick to AIX. Man, it took me about 20 minutes yesterday just to adjust the display resolution and refresh rate!

J
Title: Apple Network Server 500/132
Post by: pentium on September 03, 2008, 07:06:12 am
It's...so...pretty!
I still wish I could get my hands on one.

EDIT:
Your system also seems to be pretty much loaded. It's a really, really nice system.
Title: Apple Network Server 500/132
Post by: cchaven on September 03, 2008, 10:22:25 am
That's a sweet looking box.  I'd hate to have to move it though!  The size reminds me of some of the early SGI deskside machines.   My only exposure to AIX was on an AS/400 that we used for one specific critical database application that was accessed by connections from all over the world...the machine had one operator and he was pretty much the only one that was allowed to touch it.
Title: Apple Network Server 500/132
Post by: Jenne on September 03, 2008, 12:38:29 pm
It isn´t as loaded as it looks like. In fact it came only with 64 MB RAM and a 2 GB harddisk. The additional RAM modules were placed in that server by myself, I had to plunder a PowerMac 9600, because I wasn´t able until now to find any larger RAM modules cheap enough justifying any upgrade to 1 GB (ANS) or 1,5 GB (PM 9600). As long as there are no spare parts available anymore the other drive trays are just dust-fetchers. I will build myself a drive bracket mounting for the rear of that server which will hold two or three additional SCSI drives - but then the limits are reached, I suppose. But another 180 GB SCSI storage should be enough for my classic software storage, I suppose.
Maybe I will give up on AIX and move over to YDL. There is nearly no information available about AIX 4 anymore and it simply takes too much time to configure a server OS just by reading the contained help documents. YDL also would allow much more additional hardware I could really use...

J
Title: Apple Network Server 500/132
Post by: neozeed on September 05, 2008, 01:41:38 pm
Quote from: "Jenne"It isn´t as loaded as it looks like. In fact it came only with 64 MB RAM and a 2 GB harddisk. The additional RAM modules were placed in that server by myself, I had to plunder a PowerMac 9600, because I wasn´t able until now to find any larger RAM modules cheap enough justifying any upgrade to 1 GB (ANS) or 1,5 GB (PM 9600). As long as there are no spare parts available anymore the other drive trays are just dust-fetchers. I will build myself a drive bracket mounting for the rear of that server which will hold two or three additional SCSI drives - but then the limits are reached, I suppose. But another 180 GB SCSI storage should be enough for my classic software storage, I suppose.
Maybe I will give up on AIX and move over to YDL. There is nearly no information available about AIX 4 anymore and it simply takes too much time to configure a server OS just by reading the contained help documents. YDL also would allow much more additional hardware I could really use...

J


I used to run AIX 3 & 4, and I did all my configuration with

smitty

on a IBM 3151 TTY....  The X11 version ought to be

smit

I found it easy to manage actually....
Title: Apple Network Server 500/132
Post by: Jenne on September 08, 2008, 06:29:58 pm
Quote from: "neozeed"I found it easy to manage actually....


Well, I´m no native speaker and I´ve never seen such a complicated TCP/IP configuration before. Sure, You can just fill the major entry fields with known values, but there are tons of fields unknown...

J
Title: Apple Network Server 500/132
Post by: niteshooter on October 28, 2008, 04:44:08 pm
Hey stranger, the ANS is looking good!
Title: Apple Network Server 500/132
Post by: Jenne on October 31, 2008, 06:11:57 am
Thanks niteshooter! Now the box has three drives (two in the back in self made carrier) and 512 MB RAM - but I'm still missing some network integration and especially drivers for some hardware...

J