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NeXT Computer, Inc. => NEXTSTEP / OPENSTEP Software => Topic started by: jvernet on October 21, 2009, 06:15:05 pm

Title: Archive of NeXT Software
Post by: jvernet on October 21, 2009, 06:15:05 pm
Hi,

A while back, somebody send me a DVD, an archive of all his NeXT Software, archives and Download. The DVD is dying (read error) so I made some archives that I want to share.

Apps (1.3 Gb) http://www.megaupload.com/?d=N9Z63RSR
Some Docs (PDF, NeXTZine) http://www.megaupload.com/?d=TVQK2525

More to come: Soundfiles, System, and disk image of SQL Sybase, Mathematica, Lotus Improv...
Title: Archive of NeXT Software
Post by: jvernet on October 21, 2009, 06:19:48 pm
Some Soundfiles:
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=FU4ULYC0

Mathematica, Improv, Sybase,...
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=OBEPSDJO

Sparc Software
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=Y1E2ZN68

I also have something wich look like an archive of ftp-Peak. 458Mb of system (some iso inside). don't know if I can put it here.

Next to come: video software for NeXTStep.
Title: Archive of NeXT Software
Post by: helf on October 21, 2009, 07:08:32 pm
nice! thanks :)I forgot about megaupload. I think I'll post my video dvd ISO there.
Title: Archive of NeXT Software
Post by: jvernet on October 21, 2009, 07:38:12 pm
Next; Video Software
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=VW6A5031

Please, let me know if there something interesting here !
Title: Archive of NeXT Software
Post by: pentium on October 22, 2009, 01:56:43 am
There is quite a bit of software there that is already in the file archive however those disk images are really nice.
Title: Archive of NeXT Software
Post by: iDork on October 22, 2009, 02:50:33 am
How do you mount the "diskimage" files?
Title: Archive of NeXT Software
Post by: pentium on October 22, 2009, 05:30:10 am
I don't know how to mount them but in the file archive we have the app to dump the images back to disk.
Title: Archive of NeXT Software
Post by: iDork on October 22, 2009, 06:03:50 am
That would have worked just fine, if I only had 2.88 MB floppies to restore them on. Unfortunately, I have never had the pleasure of owning such media.
Title: Archive of NeXT Software
Post by: jvernet on October 22, 2009, 06:32:49 am
Last archive: System http://www.megaupload.com/?d=UJISE5YD

drivers, Iso, tools...

I rememebr that I had restored Image disk, maybe using a tool named 'Disk Copy II'. I will check on my NSLab today.

Yes, you need ED disk. I found one box of ten, some years ago.
Title: Archive of NeXT Software
Post by: jvernet on October 26, 2009, 09:22:07 pm
Two more CD images: Nebula CD 1 & 2. Not posted by me, found on another forum.

http://www.megaupload.com/?d=EXJM3A8D
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=Q4C5WMOG

Few thing can be found also on Macintosh Garden (http://www.macintoshgarden.org/), a very good site for old Macintosh.[/url]
Title: Archive of NeXT Software
Post by: helf on October 26, 2009, 11:04:05 pm
Quote from: "iDork"That would have worked just fine, if I only had 2.88 MB floppies to restore them on. Unfortunately, I have never had the pleasure of owning such media.


I haven't looked as the floppy images....

Are you sure they are all 2.88mb? Half the ones I've had with commercial software on them were not 2.88mb disks. They were normal 1.44mb disks.
Title: Archive of NeXT Software
Post by: iDork on October 27, 2009, 02:40:28 am
Quote from: "helf"
Quote from: "iDork"That would have worked just fine, if I only had 2.88 MB floppies to restore them on. Unfortunately, I have never had the pleasure of owning such media.


I haven't looked as the floppy images....

Are you sure they are all 2.88mb? Half the ones I've had with commercial software on them were not 2.88mb disks. They were normal 1.44mb disks.


I'm pretty sure some of them are 2.88MB (2,949,166 bytes to be exact). On top of that they don't appear to be "raw" dumps, but stored in some proprietary format (DiskCopy II I assume). Even the 1.44MB images are in the same format (a little larger file that a raw dump). They don't seem to be compressed or encrypted in any way because you can read the names of the stored files, but I can't clearly identify any type of header. I tried removing the beginning of the file, leaving just enough bytes for a 1.44MB image, but they still won't mount. I guess I'll have to do something more complex than that to trick VMware into mounting them    :wink:.
Title: Archive of NeXT Software
Post by: jvernet on October 30, 2009, 10:33:55 am
I've just found another DVD. NexStep 3.2, 3.3; OpenStep 4.0, 4.1, 4.2 User Editions and developer edition and something that look like Windows Programs, with an installer: OpenStep Enterprise toolkit for WIndows, it seem.

I think I can't put this one on the net, but the last part OpenStep Enterprise for Windows may be interesting for someone ?

Take the hand, also on my NS 3.3 and OpenStep orignals CD I lost a while back.
Title: Archive of NeXT Software
Post by: Shuren on November 05, 2009, 11:03:19 am
Quote from: "jvernet"
I think I can't put this one on the net.


When NeXTStep will be considered "abandonware" and we will can put images on Internet freely?
Title: Archive of NeXT Software
Post by: unixphreak on November 05, 2009, 11:51:38 am
The short and long answer...... never. This http://www.rhapsodyos.org/misc/dont_ask/piracy.html page will give you all the information you need to know.
Also just check out the rest of his site if you really are interested in Next or Rhapsody/Mac OS X Server 1.x for more than just a passing fancy, or even if you are just here to browse it is still a good site to read.
Title: Archive of NeXT Software
Post by: Shuren on November 05, 2009, 03:15:07 pm
Thank you for the link.
Title: Archive of NeXT Software
Post by: aragon on January 15, 2010, 12:11:23 pm
Really great stuff! I've been looking for Mathematica and Sybase for quite a while now. Now I will have to take some time and try to get them running again.

Thanks a lot!

Oh, BTW I'm still looking for the Blue Moon Rendering Tools (BMRT) package.

Is it part of one of the other archives you posted?
Title: Archive of NeXT Software
Post by: NeXTnewbe on January 16, 2010, 08:09:18 pm
Hi


I'm trying to unpack the "disk Image" image, but I haven't find ot how to do it, is there any tool to restore this to a CD under linux amd then installed in my Black HW


Thanks
Title: Archive of NeXT Software
Post by: aragon on January 18, 2010, 09:17:21 am
I did not succeed to install Mathematica so far.
Two things look suspicious: the length of the .diskimage files is 46 bytes too big, and the file Mathematica.tar contains 10kb of null bytes  :shock:

Either this is from the corrupt part of the source DVD, or this file is just not needed for installation?

Anyhow, I tried stripping the first 46 bytes form the diskimage files, but that did not help. Is there any chance to get hold of the "Disk Copy II" program? Google was not really helpful on this :-(
Title: Archive of NeXT Software
Post by: NeXTnewbe on January 18, 2010, 10:53:36 am
I'm in the same dilemma, I ned the Disk copy II to try Mathematia and the other software
Title: Archive of NeXT Software
Post by: aragon on January 18, 2010, 02:56:06 pm
Seems that 2.88 mb floppies do not work properly in a virtualized installation (at least with vmware).

So the only solution would be to find someone with working hardware drives to write the images to floppy and then copy the contents to a tar archive.

Come on, there must be someone out there with a Mathematica installer package... 8)
Title: Archive of NeXT Software
Post by: NeXTnewbe on January 18, 2010, 05:02:34 pm
Quote from: "aragon"Seems that 2.88 mb floppies do not work properly in a virtualized installation (at least with vmware).

So the only solution would be to find someone with working hardware drives to write the images to floppy and then copy the contents to a tar archive.

Come on, there must be someone out there with a Mathematica installer package... 8)


I got the Black HW, but not the floppy disks and the Copy Disk II,
Title: Archive of NeXT Software
Post by: bkmoore on January 18, 2010, 06:02:01 pm
I think the floppy images might have been made with DiskMaker.app by SmartSoft.  I found a demo copy on the NOVA CDROM, but the demo only allows you to write out a demo floppy image.  But its all academic for me because I don't have any 2.88 floppies and probably never will.

Brian

PS:  I would be willing to purchase a legal (original) copy of Mathematica for NeXT from someone if they would be willing to part with it and the disks still work.
Title: Archive of NeXT Software
Post by: iDork on January 18, 2010, 08:57:23 pm
I believe Black Hole, Inc. still sells Mathematica for NeXTSTEP. I contacted them, but I didn't get any replies after my second e-mail. They should have ver. 3 at least (I think there was some problem with ver. 4 - bad media or something).
Title: Archive of NeXT Software
Post by: jvernet on January 19, 2010, 01:14:22 pm
I didn't remember exactly how I did these image. It's with an NextStep app. I will try to power up my NSLab to find what I used. It's, sure, an NextStep app.
Title: Archive of NeXT Software
Post by: jvernet on January 19, 2010, 01:19:25 pm
Quote from: "aragon"Seems that 2.88 mb floppies do not work properly in a virtualized installation (at least with vmware).

So the only solution would be to find someone with working hardware drives to write the images to floppy and then copy the contents to a tar archive.

Come on, there must be someone out there with a Mathematica installer package... 8)


I have (I made these disks, not orignals, but made from Disk Images, made with a NextStep tool).
Title: Archive of NeXT Software
Post by: aragon on January 19, 2010, 01:56:57 pm
This sounds great! Could you copy the disks contents to a tar archive and upload the archive, please?
Title: Archive of NeXT Software
Post by: jvernet on January 19, 2010, 08:37:50 pm
The tools used to make disk image is DiskCopy II v0.9 beta, from Urs Gubser.

I'm curently rebuilding the real disk from images, I will try to make a .tar of them.
Title: Archive of NeXT Software
Post by: aragon on January 19, 2010, 09:04:46 pm
Hi jvernet,

thanks! That's great!

BTW: would you mind uploading the DiskImage tool as well? It seems to be hidden in the depths of the internet beyond Google's reach  :wink:
Title: Archive of NeXT Software
Post by: jvernet on January 19, 2010, 09:17:40 pm
Link will be posted in MP.
Disk (2 disks) contain only one Mathematica.pkg.

I think that, to install, you will need to put them on a Volume, labelled Mathematica_Disk_.1 and Mathematica_Disk_.2

Link to Disk Copy II:
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=U8K1DCH1
But it can be downloaded on next-ftp.peak.org

If some have disk to save (and to share ;) ) that's the right time !
Title: Archive of NeXT Software
Post by: aragon on January 20, 2010, 05:31:59 am
Hey, thanks a lot!!!

I will give this a try later on and let you know if it worked.

If you are looking for something in particular, let me know, I'd be glad to help you out in return!
Title: Archive of NeXT Software
Post by: aragon on January 20, 2010, 07:54:02 am
Ok, I managed to join the files into a working installer package. Basically, I just joined the .Z.1 and .Z.2 files into one .Z file and deleted the .dir* files.

Unfortunately, this Mathematica version is not for Intel, but for 68k processors  :(

Looks like I have to continue my quest...

Nevertheless, thanks for the effort! I really appreciate that!
Title: Archive of NeXT Software
Post by: NeXTnewbe on January 20, 2010, 09:09:02 am
Quote from: "aragon"Ok, I managed to join the files into a working installer package. Basically, I just joined the .Z.1 and .Z.2 files into one .Z file and deleted the .dir* files.

Unfortunately, this Mathematica version is not for Intel, but for 68k processors  :(

Looks like I have to continue my quest...

Nevertheless, thanks for the effort! I really appreciate that!


how did you joint the files?

I want to try as I have a cube to test
Title: Archive of NeXT Software
Post by: aragon on January 20, 2010, 09:14:17 am
You can join them with the command
cat Mathematica.tar.Z.1 Mathematica.tar.Z.2 > Mathematica.tar.Z.

Then delete the tar.Z.1 file from the Mathematica.pkg folder and replace it with the .tar.Z file. Delete the .dir* files and copy the .last file from the Disk 2 package.

If you have problems, I can upload the package I created.
Title: Archive of NeXT Software
Post by: NeXTnewbe on January 20, 2010, 09:29:20 am
Quote from: "aragon"You can join them with the command
cat Mathematica.tar.Z.1 Mathematica.tar.Z.2 > Mathematica.tar.Z.

Then delete the tar.Z.1 file from the Mathematica.pkg folder and replace it with the .tar.Z file. Delete the .dir* files and copy the .last file from the Disk 2 package.

If you have problems, I can upload the package I created.


wow many thanks, do you mind to upload the file, did test in this way, but not sure why didn't work

Thanks   :D
Title: Re: Archive of NeXT Software
Post by: paradox on October 30, 2014, 10:07:59 am
Does anyone have a backup of those files?

Quote from: "jvernet"Hi,
Apps (1.3 Gb) http://www.megaupload.com/?d=N9Z63RSR
Some Docs (PDF, NeXTZine) http://www.megaupload.com/?d=TVQK2525
More to come: Soundfiles, System, and disk image of SQL Sybase, Mathematica, Lotus Improv...
Title: Re: Archive of NeXT Software
Post by: jvernet on October 31, 2014, 01:36:47 pm
Quote from: "paradox"Does anyone have a backup of those files?

Quote from: "jvernet"Hi,
Apps (1.3 Gb) http://www.megaupload.com/?d=N9Z63RSR
Some Docs (PDF, NeXTZine) http://www.megaupload.com/?d=TVQK2525
More to come: Soundfiles, System, and disk image of SQL Sybase, Mathematica, Lotus Improv...


Not even me: it was on my Old died G4....


JV