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Title: I'd like to provide some high speed server space.
Post by: nextse7en on August 05, 2007, 12:57:35 am
Hi folks, I'm so glad I found this place, I was really floundering, trying to get my next up and running.

I've found that the repositorys on the web are incomplete, or very slow. I'd like to donate 2 gigs or so of ftp server space so folks can find what they need quickly.

I hope I'm not overstepping my bounds here, just want to help, if somebody already knows of a fast, complete repository of next stuff, please let me know where it is, if not. I'd like to get one going.

What do you folks think?

-Patrick
Title: Re: I'd like to provide some high speed server space.
Post by: pergamon on August 05, 2007, 04:41:28 am
Quote from: "nextse7en"Hi folks, I'm so glad I found this place, I was really floundering, trying to get my next up and running.

I've found that the repositorys on the web are incomplete, or very slow. I'd like to donate 2 gigs or so of ftp server space so folks can find what they need quickly.

I hope I'm not overstepping my bounds here, just want to help, if somebody already knows of a fast, complete repository of next stuff, please let me know where it is, if not. I'd like to get one going.

What do you folks think?

-Patrick


I have a lot of files at http://next.68k.org/ which ought to be pretty fast.
Title: Re: I'd like to provide some high speed server space.
Post by: Nitro on August 05, 2007, 04:38:22 pm
Quote from: "nextse7en"Hi folks, I'm so glad I found this place, I was really floundering, trying to get my next up and running.

I've found that the repositorys on the web are incomplete, or very slow. I'd like to donate 2 gigs or so of ftp server space so folks can find what they need quickly.

I hope I'm not overstepping my bounds here, just want to help, if somebody already knows of a fast, complete repository of next stuff, please let me know where it is, if not. I'd like to get one going.

What do you folks think?

-Patrick


That would be great.  It's always nice to have more NeXT resources available.  Here's some links to NeXT software available on the net.

ftp://ftp.peak.org/pub/next-ftp/
ftp://ftp.blackcube.org/pub
http://next.68k.org/
http://www.shawcomputing.net/resources/next/software.html
ftp://ftp.cs.tu-berlin.de/pub/NeXT
http://ftp.nice.ch/pub/next/
http://www.channelu.com/NeXT/Black/index.html
http://www.wizards.de/~frank/download.html
ftp://ftp.idsoftware.com/idstuff/doom/nextstep/
http://musickit.sourceforge.net/
http://www.misckit.com/
http://www.tntluoma.com/peak/
http://sounds.wa.com/additional.html
http://www.obdev.at/products/next-stuff/index.html
http://members.chello.at/stefan-schneider/LatinByrdProductInfo.html
http://www.nleymann.de/Nextstep/index.htm
http://www.doubleu.com/
http://www.math.unl.edu/~rdieter1/OpenStep/
http://cdl.best.vwh.net/NeXT/apps/index.html
http://www.mathi.uni-heidelberg.de/~flight/STEPkaffe/kaffe-0.9.0.html
http://golem.ph.utexas.edu/~distler/progs/index.html
http://www.gnuplot.info/
http://www.inf.uos.de/elmar/projects/rtfdtohtml/

We have a software archive here as well.

http://www.nextcomputers.org/NeXTfiles/
Title: I'd like to provide some high speed server space.
Post by: nextchef on August 06, 2007, 02:20:51 pm
pergamon,

Just curious, but what is the total size of the next peak archive?

Chef
Title: I'd like to provide some high speed server space.
Post by: pergamon on August 06, 2007, 04:22:50 pm
Quote from: "nextchef"pergamon,

Just curious, but what is the total size of the next peak archive?

Chef


I've got about 2.7GB in the peak directory.
Title: I'd like to provide some high speed server space.
Post by: nextchef on August 06, 2007, 07:36:52 pm
Quote from: "pergamon"
Quote from: "nextchef"pergamon,

Just curious, but what is the total size of the next peak archive?

Chef


I've got about 2.7GB in the peak directory.


Sweet .. easily can fit on a dvd.  Is that the complete archive, as best as you know?  

Would it be ok for me to mirror/snag the site using wget, or would it be better to use the original peak.org site?  I promise to use a 30sec delay between gets to avoid hammering the site.

Chef
Title: I'd like to provide some high speed server space.
Post by: pergamon on August 06, 2007, 10:53:36 pm
Quote from: "nextchef"
Sweet .. easily can fit on a dvd.  Is that the complete archive, as best as you know?  

Would it be ok for me to mirror/snag the site using wget, or would it be better to use the original peak.org site?  I promise to use a 30sec delay between gets to avoid hammering the site.

Chef


NO!  IT IS MY DATA AND YOU CANNOT HAVE IT!  HA HA!

Erm, I mean, sure, go ahead!  The more copies the better!

As far as I know it is complete, but I don't actually know for sure.

Actually, it looks like the original peak is still up (though at next-ftp.peak.org).
Title: I'd like to provide some high speed server space.
Post by: helf on August 06, 2007, 11:49:16 pm
I'd so buy a DVD full of everything thats in the ftp archives! :D save me the problem of downloading it all. then burn it to separate CDRs and browse it at my leisure on my NeXT! :)
Title: I'd like to provide some high speed server space.
Post by: nextchef on August 07, 2007, 03:01:58 pm
Stupid question alert ...  Does NS/OS even support the UDF format used on DVD'S?  If not, can it work with a UDF filesystem with an iso "bridge", and will this give us only 8.3 filename support?  Someone with a DVD drive hooked up to their NeXT systems please chime in.

I will still grab the data to have easier access to it, even if the disks can not be used directly in NS/OS.

Chef
Title: I'd like to provide some high speed server space.
Post by: nextchef on August 07, 2007, 04:41:46 pm
Quote from: "pergamon"
Quote from: "nextchef"pergamon,

Just curious, but what is the total size of the next peak archive?

Chef


I've got about 2.7GB in the peak directory.


So how much do the rest of the mirrors you have take up?

Chef
Title: I'd like to provide some high speed server space.
Post by: pergamon on August 07, 2007, 07:01:42 pm
Quote from: "nextchef"
So how much do the rest of the mirrors you have take up?

Chef


All the stuff under http://next.68k.org/ takes up about 15GB total.
Title: I'd like to provide some high speed server space.
Post by: nextchef on August 07, 2007, 07:38:19 pm
Quote from: "pergamon"
Quote from: "nextchef"
So how much do the rest of the mirrors you have take up?

Chef


All the stuff under http://next.68k.org/ takes up about 15GB total.


So I guess the z80 archive is the biggest chunk then.

Chef
Title: I'd like to provide some high speed server space.
Post by: da9000 on August 08, 2007, 12:57:10 am
Wow, that's huge!

It would be nice indeed to have a 3-4 DVD set of those archives.

You guys know if there's a lot of "duplication" of folders/files in there?
Title: I'd like to provide some high speed server space.
Post by: nextchef on August 09, 2007, 05:16:17 pm
Quote from: "pergamon"
As far as I know it is complete, but I don't actually know for sure.

Actually, it looks like the original peak is still up (though at next-ftp.peak.org).


Grabbed both to be sure, and after a quick analysis it appears that the original site does have more files than your copy.  It also appears that you have added a few, or they have deleted some since you made your mirror.  Still need to do a more thorough analysis to see if the differences are truly due to missing files, or just a change in directory structure or location.

Next I will run a compare against my funet.fi mirror to see what that looks like.  At some point I hope to remove the dups between them and get just one "uber"repository locally.

Chef
Title: I'd like to provide some high speed server space.
Post by: idylukewild on August 10, 2007, 06:38:15 pm
nextchef-

Thanks for doing that! I've often wondered which archive was most complete. In fact, it may be that a new, combined archive would be more complete. I've got (the complete?) Berlin NeXT User Group (BeNG) archive in 3.9 GB on a single DVD I use in my cube with an internal DVD reader. However, I had to go to http://sounds.wa.com/additional.html to get 'sdformat' Version 2.0 which I used to format the whacky 520 byte per sector hard drive for my boot drive clone (see http://www.nextcomputers.org/forums/viewtopic.php?t=372). The BeNG archive had Version 1.3, the Peak FTP site had Version 1.2. However, I don't know if the two earlier version on the archive sites would have worked just as well for my purpose.

Anyway, it would be great to have the difinitive archive that would include everything from the old archives and, perhaps, updates like sdformat Version 2.0 which isn't on the old archives.

Luke
Title: I'd like to provide some high speed server space.
Post by: nextchef on August 10, 2007, 10:12:49 pm
Grabbed that version of sdformat, and the other few programs on that site for inclusion.  So any other good repositories around to grab and add to the collection?

Chef