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Copland

Started by mrintel, July 11, 2009, 12:07:34 pm

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mrintel

Ok, I know that this is a NeXT forum, but since it had an Apple section (and me being the curious type), I had to ask...
What does everyone know about Copland?
Mr. Intel

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domiel

Not much except that I'd like to lay my hands on a copy :-)

un

They never really had much working from what I've read.  There were some developer versions that only ran on particular models and weren't even nearly stable or usable.
2 x NeXTStation Colour Turbo + 1 Defunct monitor = sad panda

applefreak

In august 1996 'Developer Release 0′ was sent to a small number of partners but was unstable, crashing and unusuable for development.

http://appledifferent.com/wordpress/2009/03/26/copland-mac-os-that-never-was/

mrintel

Well, I have both versions (DR0 and DR1). I was just wondering what people knew about Copland
Mr. Intel

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cubist

Quote from: "mrintel"Well, I have both versions (DR0 and DR1). I was just wondering what people knew about Copland

Well, its predecessor, Taligent, produced an object-oriented programming book I never found useful.  Not certain how much of that carried into Copland.  Would also be interested in hearing more...

mrintel

was there ever a release for Taligent?
Mr. Intel

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protocol7

I don't think Taligent (aka "Pink") really got off the ground.

I was never able to get either Copland build to boot due to lack of the right hardware but I did go poking through the files a long time ago. The ATM screen had a colour version of the old "landscape" picture from System 1.1. I took it out with Resedit, resized it to fit and used it in my OS8 install :)

I have the full DDK which included the D11E4 build so I'll dig it out later and see if there's anything else about Copland in there. Also some white papers.

mrintel

I just ordered a Power Mac 8500 to see if I can get Copland DR1 working. Can't wait to see what it can do (if anything at all)
Mr. Intel

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cuby


protocol7

Thanks for that link. I didn't realise there was a D9 build too.

mrintel

huh, me neither. Thanks a lot. Love to get my hands on that version.
Mr. Intel

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mrintel

Ok, I tried to install Copland, and everything went fine, until the kernel tried to initialize. Then the debugger gave this error...

Access Fault

Kernel: Dispatcher: No kernel stacks available!


Does anybody have any idea as to what I'm doing wrong, if anything at all?
Mr. Intel

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dru

Quote from: "mrintel"was there ever a release for Taligent?


There was but not as a standalone OS.

It shipped as Taligent CommonPoint for AIX 4.1 in July '95.  Apparently it runs in a AIX-hosted window with its own menus, icons and desktop.

According to IBM docs, it's not compatible with AIX 4.2 and later either.

slomacuser

I installed successfully Copland D11E4 on my PowerMac 7100/80, but it is not useful it is really buggy release ...

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