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Mouse upgrades?

Started by wayne123, November 28, 2017, 08:34:20 pm

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wayne123

Has there ever been an upgrade for the NeXT mouse like this Amiga mouse upgrade? http://amigastore.eu/en/559-laser-upgrade-for-amiga-mice.html

I like the NeXT keyboard but the mouse is lacking compared to a modern mouse.

pentium

There was never any options available for the non-ADB amchines but if you are using an ADB NeXT you are able to use any of Apple's third party products, including at least two models of optical mice.

-NeXT 68040 Cube with NS 3.3 and 64Mb ram

wayne123

Thanks, I have a Non ADB setup so I guess I am out of luck.

Rob Blessin Black Hole

Quote from: "wayne123"Thanks, I have a Non ADB setup so I guess I am out of luck.
There is  a roller trackball mouse , I have one I'm going to list on eBay just looking for the driver floppy disk works with non adb.  It is very rare, even says NeXT edition on the box! Best regards Rob Blessin
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wayne123

Quote from: "Rob Blessin Black Hole"
Quote from: "wayne123"Thanks, I have a Non ADB setup so I guess I am out of luck.
There is  a roller trackball mouse , I have one I'm going to list on eBay just looking for the driver floppy disk works with non adb.  It is very rare, even says NeXT edition on the box! Best regards Rob Blessin


How well does it work compared to the stock mouse?

Rob Blessin Black Hole

Hello Wayne: Apologies for the delay , so the roller mouse is adb only . however I know I have some serial to non adb adaptor cables , that let you hook up serial mice.  Also this mod http://www.nextcomputers.org/NeXTfiles/Docs/Hardware/replacement_non-adb__mouse.pdf
Rob Blessin President computerpowwow ebay  sales@blackholeinc.com http://www.blackholeinc.com
303-741-9998 Serving the NeXT Community  since 2/9/93

wayne123

Thanks, I will look in to finding a nice mouse

cuby

The non-ADB NeXT mouse simply outputs rectangle signals (like Atari ST and  Amiga mice and also the PC bus mouse), so adapting one of these is easy - just build a plug adapter. So, an Amiga mouse upgraded using the laser upgrade module should work.

There was an adapter to attach a Logitech bus mouse to NeXTs (I own one and it works quite well) - this guy still seems to sell the adapter and mice:
http://www.kevra.org/TheBestOfNext/NeXTProducts/NeXTHardware/NeXTMouseReplacement/NeXTMouseReplacement.html

Obviously, you will not gain any additional features such as a third button or a scrollwheel using the adapter and you won't be able to find an optical bus mouse, since these have not been manufactured for decades now.

I seem to remember that there was also a driver for serial (RS-232) mice attached to one of the UART ports on the 68k NeXTs, but I can't find the information right now...

-- Michael

wayne123

Thanks for the info, I figured it was possible but didn't know if it had been done.

A serial mouse driver also would be great as serial optical mice are still easy to find.