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Andreas
Joined: 27 Dec 2005
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Location: Germany
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 Posted: Thu Jun 16, 2016 6:57 am Post subject: |
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| schubige wrote: | Sorry for the troubles with the darkmatter patcher. Here is an updated version which should work with "java -jar ...":
| Code: | | https://1drv.ms/u/s!ALWHYwiFLPiFhLMl |
Regarding the Ethernet: I have no idea what it could be. I've tested it with a turbo cube and I was able to open web pages with Internet Explorer and Netscape Navigator. Anyone else with the same problem? What kind of Ethernet switch do you have between the NeXT and the modem? Could it be that switch's auto-negotiation down to 10MBit/s fails? |
Makes no sense, if the switch was the bad one, i had also no network on the NeXTstep side, but on all machines i have network on the NeXTstep side.
i have on the same desktop place tested some spare NeXTs, the same ethernet cable, the same harddrive (same powerplug  ), same Monitor. Exchanged i have the Soundbox, keyboard, Y-cable from ADB to non-ADB (or to mono) regarding the used NeXT.
I have first tested a NeXT Turbo Color slab, with no ethernet uplink in MacOS, have removed the hard disk and installed it in the NeXT mono nonturbo, booted and Voala, i had an uplink and network after starting the 8.1 harddrive.
The MacPing App shows also the pinging of the router. At now i have configured fixed adresses.
Do you have tested the Turbo with ADB or non-ADB equipment? |
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schubige
Joined: 24 Jul 2015
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Location: Switzerland
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| Posted: Thu Jun 16, 2016 8:16 am Post subject: |
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| It was non-ADB. Is it possible to check if some packets are sent at all over the Ethernet port (e.g. with Wireshark running on another machine) while daydream runs? |
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Andreas
Joined: 27 Dec 2005
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Location: Germany
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| Posted: Mon Jun 20, 2016 2:03 am Post subject: |
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| schubige wrote: | | It was non-ADB. Is it possible to check if some packets are sent at all over the Ethernet port (e.g. with Wireshark running on another machine) while daydream runs? |
I hadn't yet the time to examine with wireshark, but i think not i will see something.
If NeXTstep boots up, after loading the network driver the LED on the RJ45 socket lights on, on booting darkmatter (or the old daydream) the LED on the RJ45 is dark. So i assume the ethernet chip wasn't enabled properly.
I have tested my equipment also with non-ADB but no working at all |
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pentium
Joined: 23 Jun 2006
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Location: Kamloops, BC
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| Posted: Tue Jun 28, 2016 8:11 am Post subject: |
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Before I root through 15 pages of posts, did anyone ever post the completed schematics for the ROM box? Someone gave me all the IC's to build one just before we patched the box out completely but for the hell of it I'd be willing to finish it anyways. I just need the schematics.
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-NeXT 68040 Cube with NS 3.3 and 64Mb ram |
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Andreas
Joined: 27 Dec 2005
Posts: 351
Location: Germany
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| Posted: Wed Jul 06, 2016 11:47 pm Post subject: |
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| Andreas wrote: | | schubige wrote: | | It was non-ADB. Is it possible to check if some packets are sent at all over the Ethernet port (e.g. with Wireshark running on another machine) while daydream runs? |
I hadn't yet the time to examine with wireshark, but i think not i will see something.
If NeXTstep boots up, after loading the network driver the LED on the RJ45 socket lights on, on booting darkmatter (or the old daydream) the LED on the RJ45 is dark. So i assume the ethernet chip wasn't enabled properly.
I have tested my equipment also with non-ADB but no working at all |
I have now tested with an 25MHz Cube, and networkig is also working. Maybe there are different ethernet chips in the Turbo line?
Mono-Cube: OK
Mono-Slab: OK
Turbo-Color slab: not working
Turbo-Mono slab: not working
Turbo-Cube: not working
25MHz Color slab but with Turbo-MB: not working |
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Andreas
Joined: 27 Dec 2005
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Location: Germany
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| Posted: Sun Feb 05, 2017 5:44 am Post subject: |
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| Andreas wrote: | | Andreas wrote: | | schubige wrote: | | It was non-ADB. Is it possible to check if some packets are sent at all over the Ethernet port (e.g. with Wireshark running on another machine) while daydream runs? |
I hadn't yet the time to examine with wireshark, but i think not i will see something.
If NeXTstep boots up, after loading the network driver the LED on the RJ45 socket lights on, on booting darkmatter (or the old daydream) the LED on the RJ45 is dark. So i assume the ethernet chip wasn't enabled properly.
I have tested my equipment also with non-ADB but no working at all |
I have now tested with an 25MHz Cube, and networkig is also working. Maybe there are different ethernet chips in the Turbo line?
Mono-Cube: OK
Mono-Slab: OK
Turbo-Color slab: not working
Turbo-Mono slab: not working
Turbo-Cube: not working
25MHz Color slab but with Turbo-MB: not working |
Any news on this? I have now a Color Station and network is also working, but not on all the turbo machines. The behavier is so, as it would never an ethernet chip build in, so whireshark doesn't help by a non-exisiting network card. |
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mietek
Joined: 12 Feb 2017
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Location: Cambridge, UK
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| Posted: Sun Feb 12, 2017 9:35 pm Post subject: |
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This is amazing. In just a few minutes, I was able to boot into System 7.1, on a virtual NEXTSTEP 3.3 machine, emulated by Previous 1.5, running on my physical macOS 10.12.3 machine. A sincere thank you to everyone who has made this possible.
Unfortunately, there is a small problem. I was only able to use the pre-patched daydream kernel, dated 2015-08-01, MD5 checksum cfccff69cd93a51962b43c1bccf4e996, and I would like to use the updated patch, dated 2016-06-16. I tried following the instructions to patch the 2.11 daydream kernel, but I failed just as Rob Blessin Black Hole did earlier.
The Java patcher does not recognise the 2.11 daydream kernel, MD5 checksum 6fe7a3d67bb7ab1b4123876aa49c5e65, even though I have extracted it from the “update-v2.11.img” disk image included in the “Daydream_docs_n_floppies.tar” archive. The error message simply says “Not a version 2.11 daydream kernel”.
Can someone confirm what is the MD5 checksum of a daydream kernel that the patcher will accept?
Alternatively, can someone send me a pre-patched kernel that includes the latest patch and is optimised for Previous? |
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mietek
Joined: 12 Feb 2017
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Location: Cambridge, UK
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| Posted: Sun Feb 12, 2017 10:43 pm Post subject: |
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After starting from scratch, I was able to patch the 2.11 daydream kernel successfully.
MD5 (Original 1.41/daydream) = 2eec01fa466094191fb2d3bb8f5d8abb
MD5 (Original 2.11/daydream) = 2ace94152af70dd909bc803837993ae9
MD5 (Patched 2.11 2015-08-01/daydream) = cfccff69cd93a51962b43c1bccf4e996
MD5 (Patched 2.11 2016-06-16/daydream) = 3e6d1c12d11c569b6a8e911d54eb0077 |
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