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galgot



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PostPosted: Mon Jan 13, 2014 1:46 pm    Post subject: SSH ? Reply with quote

Hi ! My first post post here Smile
I've just installed Rhapsody 5.6 on a PowerBook G3 PDQ 266 Mhz, together with a MacOS 8.6 partition, works very well, happy with it.
Now i'm wondering, is there a way to have SSH on Rhapsody ?
Cheers.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 14, 2014 3:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

There were packages for Rhapsody on the peak.org site. I did find a version at the link below, but do not know how useful it will be.

ftp://ftp.cs.tu-berlin.de/pub/NeXT/crypt/unix/

The README describes it being for Rhapsody.
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galgot



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PostPosted: Wed Jan 15, 2014 5:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

thanks ! Will try with that.
Nice server btw, lots of things there Smile

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galgot



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PostPosted: Sat Jan 18, 2014 1:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ok, I finally figured out how to make work.
Rhapsody forum here doesn't seems to be very active, maybe how the only remaining person playing with that old Os. Anyway here is how i did it , maybe not the best way, but if it can be of some help. Note you need the Rhapsody Dev Tools to be installed to compile.

UPDATEs :

first get zlib-1.2.8 from here :
http://www.zlib.net
Untar it , then ./configure; make test
log as root to install,
su
make install


Then go to :
http://openssl.org/source/

Get openssl-0.9.8
./Configure no-hw no-sha512 rhapsody-ppc-cc
make
su
make install


And , go to :
http://ftp.openbsd.org/pub/OpenBSD/OpenSSH/portable/
and get openssh-3.2.2p1.tar.gz .
Untar, then
./configure
make
su
make install


And it works… here some screens, connected to a MacMini :





Now VNC would be nice...


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eagle



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PostPosted: Sun Jan 19, 2014 12:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

VNC would be nice, and I use VMware Fusion to get VNC access to my NeXT boxes: I run Rhapsody DR2, NeXTSTEP 3.3, and OPENSTEP 4.2 in a VM, and I use VMware's VNC server to access those VMs.
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galgot



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PostPosted: Mon Jan 20, 2014 3:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

eagle wrote:
VNC would be nice, and I use VMware Fusion to get VNC access to my NeXT boxes: I run Rhapsody DR2, NeXTSTEP 3.3, and OPENSTEP 4.2 in a VM, and I use VMware's VNC server to access those VMs.


That's cool. Did you had to install something in the Rhapsody DR2 system VM for the VNC to work with it ? or it's just the VMWare interface doing the thing ?
I can access the BlueBox in Rhapsody through VNC , with OS9VNC, but only the OS8.6 desktop… And the funny thing , if i switch to Rhapsody desktop in the BlueBox , the VNC screen stays on the OS 8.6 desktop and still works.
I've read somewhere that X-windowing is possible in Rhapsody, with SSH installed now, maybe it's a solution… will try that.
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 20, 2014 4:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's just the VMware interface doing its thing, but having the VMMouse driver installed (same driver works in all 3 of those OSes) really helps, so that the mouse tracks correctly. And yes, I have seen the same thing you mentioned with the Blue Box. Smile I thought that was pretty neato.
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 20, 2014 11:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

You can use RBrowser to connect to Nextstep/Openstep/Rhapsody desktops, available here: ftp://ftp.cs.tu-berlin.de/pub/NeXT/net/misc/apps/commercial/
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 06, 2014 4:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Are the dev tools for OSX Server 1.0-1.2 on the WebObjects disk?
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galgot



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PostPosted: Mon Mar 10, 2014 2:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

vash2k6 wrote:
Are the dev tools for OSX Server 1.0-1.2 on the WebObjects disk?


Hi, sorry for late response.
yes they are on the WebObjects/Developer 4.0.1 cd.

Btw, still looking for a VNC solution for Rhapsody… no joy so far.
Also looking if there is a way to make X11 work on it…
Really like this system.
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galgot



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PostPosted: Sat Apr 26, 2014 11:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ok so no VNC…
But X11. Found two X11 servers for Rhapsody. maX and Xnext.
Here : http://nextstuff.info/mirrors/otto/html/pub/MacOSX-Server/X11/server/
Only tried maX for now. some screens :
startup




by default maX as twm , but you have to make yourself a .bashrc file that add /usr/X11R6.4/bin to your PATH. then start a bash in the term.





And here ssh-Xing in my MacMini running WMaker :




I'm surprised how fast it is. much more than with MI/X on os9.
It's a bit buggy, sometime, cursor disappears and must reboot to get it back. but overall Very cool !!
So far i've not been able to ssh-X from the Mac to the Rhapsody Xwindow. Will look into it.

Cheers
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hexloo



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PostPosted: Mon Feb 13, 2017 8:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

galgot wrote:
Ok, I finally figured out how to make work.
Rhapsody forum here doesn't seems to be very active, maybe how the only remaining person playing with that old Os. Anyway here is how i did it , maybe not the best way, but if it can be of some help. Note you need the Rhapsody Dev Tools to be installed to compile.
Also it helps to be logged as root.

first get zlib-1.2.8 from here :
http://www.zlib.net
Untar it , then "./configure; make test" and "make install" to install.

Then go to :
http://openssl.org/source/
and grab openssl-0.9.6c.tar.gz ,(i've tried with versions from the approx time-frame of Rhapsody… first with 0.9.6b from 2001, didn't work. then with that 0.9.6c compiles Ok, but maybe more recent versions could work, dunno).
Untar and "./config" , "make" , "make test" and "make install" .

And , go to :
http://ftp.openbsd.org/pub/OpenBSD/OpenSSH/portable/
and get openssh-3.2.2p1.tar.gz .
Untar, then "./configure" , "make" and "make install".
And it works… here some screens, connected to a MacMini :





Now VNC would be nice...

I can't get OpenSSL to compile like this, it first complained about __ftime so I got ftime.c and ftime.o and added them to the makefile, but then it complains about __localtime_r and __set_errno and I can't get that to work.
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galgot



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PostPosted: Tue Feb 14, 2017 5:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi , you here too Smile
I've replied you at 86kmla already. Will also update my old post here.
Try with openssl-0.9.8
./Configure no-hw no-sha512 rhapsody-ppc-cc
make
su
make install

That's how it works for me.
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