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korneluk
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 Posted: Fri Jun 01, 2007 9:12 am Post subject: Ariel Quint DSP / QuintProcessor |
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Anybody have information on this board for the NeXT cube?
I know it has four slave DSPs with 16 or 32K of static RAM, a hub DSP with 8K of SRAM, a bank of dynamic RAM (DRAM) a set of serial ports, two per DSP, and a SCSI chip.
I also have enough parts to build one if I could get my hands on a schematic.
Any info appreciated,
-- josé k. |
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Andreas
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| Posted: Mon Jun 04, 2007 2:28 am Post subject: Re: Ariel Quint DSP / QuintProcessor |
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| korneluk wrote: | | Anybody have information on this board for the NeXT cube? |
If i remember correctly David Fischbach, a french guy, have this board. But i have to dig out how to contact him. Since he have buyed some things via eBay, maybe some of the sellers from the USA have also an email-adress. |
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korneluk
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| Posted: Mon Jun 04, 2007 6:04 am Post subject: |
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If we get enough information, or an actual board to trace the schematic, I am willing to capture a schematic and lay out a PCB for all to use.
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Andreas
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| Posted: Mon Jun 04, 2007 6:42 am Post subject: |
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| korneluk wrote: | If we get enough information, or an actual board to trace the schematic, I am willing to capture a schematic and lay out a PCB for all to use.
-- josé k. |
Could you do this with an Nitro board  ? |
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korneluk
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| Posted: Mon Jun 04, 2007 12:16 pm Post subject: |
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I have never seen a Nitro board. If it is just straight logic, the answer is yes. If there are PALs, GALs, or other programmable logic to reverse engineer it will take longer.
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korneluk
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| Posted: Sun Jul 01, 2007 5:14 pm Post subject: |
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I found a link with a picture and the description of the IRCAM SPW for the NeXT. Link and pictures here:
http://knorretje.hku.nl/wiki/ISPW
Enjoy,
-- josé k. |
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pentium
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| Posted: Mon Jul 02, 2007 8:31 am Post subject: |
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Damn son, that's a lot of silicon.
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da9000
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Location: Silicon Valley
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| Posted: Thu Jul 12, 2007 2:45 am Post subject: |
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| pentium wrote: | | Damn son, that's a lot of silicon. |
Heh, they made'em "fat" in those days! And the hardware*did* deserve the price tag it carried those days! |
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emond
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tenzin
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emond
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I think is very hard too find one, I think it is home making by Ariel, but only for the CCRMA Center for Computer Research in Music and Acoustics at Stanford University.
The most interesting link is :
http://www.scandalis.com/Jarrah/PhysicalModels/index.html#StanfordCCRMA
| Quote: | | I also worked on developing a number of Physical Models. These models were developed on a NeXT machine using SynthBuilder (screenshot-1 gif, 68kb, screenshot-2 gif, 55kb) and the NeXT MusicKit running on Motorola 56k DSPs. We had 3 DSP platforms. The original NeXT machine had an onboard 25Mhz 56k. Bill Putnam and Tim Stilson also designed a DSP farm known as the Frankenstein box (screenshot-3 gif, 154kb, screenshot-4 gif, 177kb) that had 8 Motorola 56k EVMs over-clocked to 80 MHz connected to a P5 NeXT machine via an ISA interface. We also had a single card EVM integrated onto an ISA card , known as a “Cocktail Frank” (Tim Stilson and I hand built these). Here are some sound samples, and a brief explanation of each model. |
| Quote: | | The Ariel QuintProcessor is a board that fits into the NeXT cube. It features four "satellite" ("slave") DSPs with 16 or 32K of static RAM (SRAM), a hub DSP with 8K of SRAM, a bank of dynamic RAM (DRAM) a set of serial ports, two per DSP, and a SCSI chip. The Music Kit supports the DSPs, the DSP ports, and the DRAM. It does not currently support the SCSI. |
Look these link for more informations :
http://musickit.sourceforge.net/Frameworks/interfaceArielQP.html
and
http://www.koders.com/objectivec/fid09F18D3D0117C96073A15EF82FE75BF92422F4E5.aspx
One good source are the Computer Music Journal, Vol. 15, No. 4, Dream Machines for Computer Music: In Honor of John R. Pierce's 80th Birthday (Winter, 1991), pp. 62-64 :
http://www.jstor.org/jstor/gifcvtdir/ap005168/01489267/ap060053/06a00180_l.1.gif?config=jstor&K=user@user_response/41mAX8SbHy4N.omhvG/40/4kmArwjm/301489267.ap060053.06a00180.0/1GigFFQHyelb9N40B87o.m
Other :
| Quote: | | Digital signal processing is possible on the NeXT computers, both via built-in Motorola 56001 DSP hardware and on three Ariel Quint Processor boards which contribute five additional 56001 processors each. |
http://www.o-art.org/history/Computer/CCRMA/C.C.R.M.A..html
Also :
Computer Music Workstations I Have Known and Loved
| Quote: | | The recent Common Lisp music/Common music (clm/cm) system developed by William Schottstaedt and Heinrich Taube at the CCRMA Center for Computer Research in Music and Acoustics at Stanford University combines a NeXT “cube” workstation with an Ariel Corp. Quint Processor with five Motorola DSP56001 co-processors (Schottstaedt; Taube). The combined system supports signal synthesis and processing, score description and management, and MIDI capture and performance in a unified Lisp-based environment. This is a powerful state-of-the-art Lisp-based music system. More recently, it has been ported to other Common Lisp platforms, such as Intel-based PCs. |
http://www.create.ucsb.edu/~stp/PostScript/icmc.95.CMWS.pdf
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