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Help/ Advice Installing on HP PA Risc 715/100

 
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Rob Blessin Black Hole
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 25, 2012 2:48 pm    Post subject: Help/ Advice Installing on HP PA Risc 715/100 Reply with quote

Hello NeXT Community: I bought a couple 715/ 100 and am looking for a little help / advice. It looks like I needed an adapter box to hook up a keyboard and mouse as well so I bought a 46084A HP-HIL Module but I'm thinking a better solution would be the A4220-62001 which is an HIL to PS/2 convertor but I'm not sure if the NeXTSTEP drivers will support this route.
Does anyone know if an HIL to PS 2 convertor is supported by NeXTSTEP 3.3?

I'm hoping someone might have the correct parts combination path in terms of which convertor box or boxes and cables I would need to hook up either an hil keyboard , (does an HIL mouse plug into this Hil keyboard as the box I have only has a single HIL port?)
I've looked at online manuals and they don't show a diagram for an HIL setup but I'll keep searching.

So I'm guessing the easy route is to find the needle in the haystack A4220-62001 HIL to PS2 convertor if supported or have advice on if HIL keyboard and mice devices work what the cables and adapters are required to make it work.
Also if you have these HP parts for trade or sale please let me know.

Best regards Rob Blessin
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 27, 2012 11:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rob,

They are kind of pricey online. I think there is also a guide on building one yourself. Perhaps you can get a custom one made? Check the FAQ at http://www.openpa.net/systems/hp-9000_715.html I have a HIL KB+Mouse if you are interested in a trade for some NeXT Software or something..
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 27, 2012 12:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Hello: yes I'll work a trade what are you looking for in NeXT software? does the HIL keyboard and mouse need a special module ? I have a 46084A HP-HIL ID module but it looks like it only has 1 port so I'm trying to figure out if I need 2 of these , one for the keyboard and one for the mouse or if the mouse plugs into the keyboard and keyboard into the module? Best regards Rob Blessin

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PostPosted: Fri Jul 27, 2012 3:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'll take some pics of the hardware and email them to you. I think the mouse piggybacks onto the keyboard (like old adb macs).
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 29, 2013 3:39 pm    Post subject: Install NeXTSTEP 3.3 on HPPA Risc 715/100 Reply with quote

Hello: I've taken up this NeXTSTEP HP PA project again as I lucked out and found an HP HIL to ps2 keyboard convertor and am still trying to scavange an HP HIL keyboard and mouse as they are pricy but I may have a line on a set I can swap for some NeXT stuff, I knew I shouldn't have given those away awhile back but helped someone get there box going.

Now I'm hoping that NeXTSTEP 3.3 has a PA Risc driver that supports the hp hil to PS2 keyboard and mouse convertor I found as I have plenty of ps 2 keyboards and mice,

I'm waiting for a bundle of HIL cables to arrive to complete the loop and also have the hp hil keyboard and mouse external box as well. It baffles me why they didn't just put a standard keyboard and mouse adaptor on the motherboard as having to plug an external box in then the keyboard and mouse plug into that seems odd kind of like the NeXT soundbox lol creates an achilles heal

So I popped the hood to look underneath and it is a fairly clean and folds open easily enough , motherboard looks like she uses standard scsi 2 with an external scsi port so I'm thinking I should be able to hook up an external scsi cd and set the ID to 6 and use an internal 4Gb scsi drive , I'm guessing as there is no floppy it must boot from the cd to start the install. looks like a vga monitor connection.

I have a 22" Samsung flatpanel , the caps are toast on the power supply board so I ordered a kit for $9 to bring it back to life , disassembled it and it looks easy enough. I'm thinking of painting it NeXT black and attaching a nice NeXT logo as it would make a fairly cool looking NeXT Risc box so I'll have a black one and white one.

If the install doesn't fly may be I'll try a Network install , if anyone has insite on the path of least resistance to installing on hppa risc let me know , I think I can also upgrade to 4.2 although it was never official I've heard that if 3.3 is installed you can upgrade to 4.2 at any rate . hope all is well and thanks for any advice.

Best regards Rob Blessin
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