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mikeboss
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okay, I'm seeing the same behavior (Workspace Manager Error, empty requester etc.) with NS 3.1 as you do.
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protocol7
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| Posted: Wed Mar 26, 2014 6:22 pm Post subject: |
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| That's weird. I wonder what's up with 3.1? |
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eagle
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| Posted: Wed Mar 26, 2014 8:18 pm Post subject: |
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Yeah, it's really weird. I guess I'm giving up on 3.1 in Previous, and I think it's 3.1's fault, not Previous's fault.
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mikeboss
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| Posted: Thu Mar 27, 2014 7:49 am Post subject: |
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| eagle wrote: | | Yeah, it's really weird. I guess I'm giving up on 3.1 in Previous, and I think it's 3.1's fault, not Previous's fault. |
well, if it's running on black hardware... I'm in the process of installing 3.1 on one of the cubes. will make an image of it and afterwards I'll test it in previous.
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| Posted: Thu Mar 27, 2014 7:50 am Post subject: |
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Mike, keep me posted about that -- that's a great idea.
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mikeboss
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| Posted: Thu Mar 27, 2014 8:15 am Post subject: |
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okay, now with the image I created from a disk containing a fresh install (on a turbo-cube). of course the installation process ran fine on black hardware 
no dice! NS 3.1 hangs with "root on" as long as the emulated machine is a cube. when running as a slab it's booting but I'm getting the "Workspace Manager Error".
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eagle
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That's a bummer. I guess there must be something wrong with Cube emulation. Did you try both the 68030 and 040 Cube models?
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mikeboss
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| eagle wrote: | | That's a bummer. I guess there must be something wrong with Cube emulation. Did you try both the 68030 and 040 Cube models? |
it seems there's something wrong with the slab too (Workspace Manager Error). of course I ran both types of cubes.
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I can confirm that 3.1 is now working in Previous 0.4. I have it installed, along with the Developer tools.
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tomaz
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| Posted: Wed May 14, 2014 8:16 am Post subject: |
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| eagle wrote: | I imaged my NeXTSTEP 3.1 CD-ROMs, and I got the following MD5 checksums from them | Code: | adfef37e096bfdf0f554e5e85fccecb7 NeXTSTEP 3.1/Developer-3.1.iso
fe8880f99a78dad49614c6656e6f833b NeXTSTEP 3.1/Install-3.1.iso |
Does that match yours?[/code] |
It matches mine dumped on a certain version of Mac OS X.
However, I have also dumped the another copy of the developer CD on another (earlier) version of Mac OS X, and it produced a different md5 sum: | Code: | | 21452083306da756485ceab8ac99269b NeXTSTEP 3.1/Developer-3.1.iso |
The only difference is that the first dump (the one that matches yours) contains an extra 300kB of NULs at the end.
Since I've dumped an original OpenSolaris CD on the same version of Mac OS X, which came out as equal to the dump of the same CD on opensolaris mirrors, PLUS 300kB of NULs at the end, I am wondering whether it's correct to have these 300kB of NULs at the end or not, and whether this is a bug in this particular version of Mac OS X. Which would imply that both my first dump of the developer CD and your dump contain an extraneous 300kB of NULs at the end.
I have not investigated this.
And the extra NULs probably don't cause any harm. |
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tomaz
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| Posted: Wed May 14, 2014 8:17 am Post subject: |
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| mikeboss wrote: | I don't have NS 3.1 Developer, only User. I got a different MD5:
a3515580315cc322dbeb237a125d2134
but I also used a slightly different command to create the ISO:
sh-3.2# dd if=/dev/disk5 of=/Users/mikeboss/Desktop/NS31.iso bs=2048 |
Yes, this is the correct MD5 sum of the raw dump. |
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protocol7
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| Posted: Wed May 14, 2014 8:23 am Post subject: |
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I have noticed that some images can have padding appended to them depending on how they are ripped.
As such I think it's a good idea to also include the filesize with the hash when verifying dumps. I've been able to match some checksums by adding or removing padding from dumps, but knowing how much padding is there depends on knowing the filesize. I've had little success guessing it. |
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