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mikeboss



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PostPosted: Sat Mar 29, 2014 8:57 am    Post subject: WANTED: images of old system releases Reply with quote

over the past few days I've been busy creating fresh images of all NeXT operating system releases I could find in my collection. to create as small as possible files I erased the CF cards by overwriting them with zeroes before installing the system. these are all fresh installs, done on black hardware. the images have never been booted after the installation process has finished. they have been created by either using BuildDisk or by using original install media where available. no patches (if available) have been applied.

if anybody is willing to host these files I'll be happy to share (if there aren't any concerns about legal issues...).

here's the list of the images I created and also the releases I'm still missing:

NS 0.8 MISSING
NS 0.8a MISSING
NS 0.9 1.0GB (ZIP 64MB)
NS 1.0 MISSING
NS 1.0a 1.0GB (ZIP 66MB)
NS 2.0 MISSING
NS 2.1 2.0GB (ZIP 88MB)
NS 2.1a MISSING
NS 2.2 2.0GB (ZIP 30MB)
NS 3.0 2.0GB (ZIP 30MB)
NS 3.1 2.0GB (ZIP 44MB)
NS 3.2 2.0GB (ZIP 45MB)
NS 3.3 2.0GB (ZIP 86MB)
OS 4.0 2.0GB (ZIP 94MB)
OS 4.2 2.0GB (ZIP 94MB)


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michael
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 29, 2014 2:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I will provide the missing images as soon as I get a chance.
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wizard



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PostPosted: Sat Mar 29, 2014 7:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You can host on my server I sent you last month
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mikeboss



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PostPosted: Sun Mar 30, 2014 12:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

adam,

thanks for the offer. would the images be available for anybody interested in them?
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 30, 2014 5:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

UPDATE: NeXTSTEP 2.0 done!

NS 0.8 MISSING
NS 0.8a MISSING
NS 0.9 1.0GB (ZIP 64MB)
NS 1.0 got an image, might be completed in the near future
NS 1.0a 1.0GB (ZIP 66MB)
NS 2.0 2.0GB (ZIP 76MB)
NS 2.1 2.0GB (ZIP 88MB)
NS 2.1a MISSING
NS 2.2 2.0GB (ZIP 30MB)
NS 3.0 2.0GB (ZIP 30MB)
NS 3.1 2.0GB (ZIP 44MB)
NS 3.2 2.0GB (ZIP 45MB)
NS 3.3 2.0GB (ZIP 86MB)
NS 4.0 got an image, might be completed in the near future
OS 4.0 2.0GB (ZIP 94MB)
OS 4.2 2.0GB (ZIP 94MB)



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PostPosted: Sun Mar 30, 2014 10:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

UPDATE: NeXTSTEP 1.0 done!

NS 0.8 MISSING
NS 0.8a MISSING
NS 0.9 1.0GB (ZIP 64MB)
NS 1.0 1.0GB (ZIP 67MB)
NS 1.0a 1.0GB (ZIP 66MB)
NS 2.0 2.0GB (ZIP 76MB)
NS 2.1 2.0GB (ZIP 88MB)
NS 2.1a MISSING
NS 2.2 2.0GB (ZIP 30MB)
NS 3.0 2.0GB (ZIP 30MB)
NS 3.1 2.0GB (ZIP 44MB)
NS 3.2 2.0GB (ZIP 45MB)
NS 3.3 2.0GB (ZIP 86MB)
MECCA got an image, might be completed in the near future
OS 4.0 2.0GB (ZIP 94MB)
OS 4.2 2.0GB (ZIP 94MB)
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 30, 2014 11:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Here is the Next Step 0.9 it in in dump format hope it helps http://wdl2.winworldpc.com/Abandonware%20Operating%20Systems/Misc/NeXT%20NeXTSTEP%200.9%20%5b68k%5d.7z
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 31, 2014 3:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hello Mike: I can also host them on black hole and make them easily downloadable , I would put them in the shopping cart section which would be accessable to everyone for a nominal fee like $1.00, this would cover the added expense of server space. I have ISO's available as well of Openstep 4.2 and NeXTSTEP 3.3 and have those working with permission from Apple Legal . For forum members I can offer support as well , if the $1 is a deal breaker , you can always email me and I can send you a secret squirrel link that is time controlled .... so how exactly does one unzip uncompress and install version 1.0 or any versions up to 2.2 on to a hard drive on an 030 or later cube ? As early versions didn't use cdrom but optical disk and 1.0 builddisk only goes optical to optical .... can you create an early iso or cdr bootable version , then what command do you issue to start the install or is it DD . Best regards Rob Blessin Wink http://www.blackholeinc.com/store/
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mikeboss



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PostPosted: Mon Mar 31, 2014 5:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

hi rob!

I don't mind if you'll take USD 1.00 per download. but, if anybody is willing to host the files for free, they will become available there too.

these are zipped dd-images. you could restore them on black hardware but I think it is easier to do it on a Mac or Linux box. BTW: 1.0 and 0.9 will install to a harddrive using BuildDisk. of course one has to create a suitable disktab first (this is what I did) so the HDD will be recognized by the installer.

the images also work with the NeXT emulator previous.

regards,
michael
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 14, 2014 9:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

hello NeXT community!

we have been able to confirm the compatibility of almost every release of NeXTSTEP with the NeXT emulator Previous. what we're still missing is NeXTSTEP Release 0.8 or 0.8a. please contact me or andreas_g if you have a working copy. some releases have "special needs" (like we have seen with Release 2.0 which refused to boot). now that 2.0 is running, we would like to check if 0.8 works in Previous or not... thank you!


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PostPosted: Mon Apr 14, 2014 11:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I will get a copy of 0.8 as soon as I can...
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 14, 2014 11:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

have you found hosting for these images? what's the legality?
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 15, 2014 7:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Strange, I never had any trouble booting 2.0.

So is 3.1 working OK now?
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 15, 2014 8:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

@gtnicol: thank you in advance!

@jroark: the images are still not hosted anywhere. I don't know for sure if it would be legal or not...

@protocol7: there was an issue with 2.0 (I was in contact with andreas about the issue). and it has been solved.

I totally forgot about the issue with 3.1. tested it a few minutes ago and the hang on root is till there. funny thing is: 3.1 works if I choose NeXTstation as emulated system...
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 15, 2014 10:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

protocol7 wrote:
Strange, I never had any trouble booting 2.0.

So is 3.1 working OK now?


The problem with 2.0 only occurred when emulating 68040 based systems. It was FPU related and is fixed now.
I remember there was a problem with fonts not being shown in a later release. That might be solved too.

All other problems (like the "root on" hang) are not addressed by the latest changes. They are not CPU related. Most of them might be timing problems.
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