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Mike



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PostPosted: Mon Mar 06, 2017 10:57 pm    Post subject: NeXTStep Diskette Included !!!!!!! Reply with quote

Hello to all:

I ordered a used copy of Shebanek's old NeXT book from a bookseller on the internet.



It was only $8.50 plus a few dollars postage.

Does anyone else have a copy -- and can anyone make the files on the diskette available ???

Mike
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Mike



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PostPosted: Wed Mar 08, 2017 9:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well,

The Shebanek NeXTStep book arrived today, the one I ordered last week through Abe Books (and supplied by Thrift Books in Aurora, IL.)

Described as "used" and supposedly in fair condition, it showed up looking completely clean and unused --- and I was a bit premature assuming that the software diskette would not be included: not only is the NeXTStep diskette still in the book, but the plastic envelope has never even been opened.

Expectations exceeded. I will have to read up on how to copy diskettes and make a backup. I hope the floppy is still good.

Mike
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bobo68



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PostPosted: Fri Mar 10, 2017 3:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Please make an image of the floppy and post it here.
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Mike



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PostPosted: Fri Mar 10, 2017 4:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hmmmm.... If only it were that easy.

Not possible.

I have owned a NeXTStation Mono, my first and only NeXT computer, for just over a month now and am a novice at this stuff. Realistically speaking, I simply do not have the skills required to connect the NeXTStation to our home network (five Macs) in order to post a disk image to DropBox ... and when I put the disk into my Mac Pro to create a disk image for that purpose, of course it says that the disk is unreadable and offers to initialize it...

I could, theoretically, duplicate the 1.44MB floppy disk (by using the instructions outlined in Michael B. Shebanek's excellent book) and mail you a copy.

Unfortunately, I am in CANADA. If I were in China, I could send out no end of disks for free...

Mike
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Mike



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PostPosted: Fri Mar 10, 2017 5:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

bobo68 wrote:
Please make an image of the floppy and post it here.


However.... I see you are in Germany. A bit off the beaten track.

If someone who lives close to Toronto in Southern Ontario and whose NeXTStation or other NeXT Computer is already networked, and who could give me a mailing address, I would gladly drop a duplicate copy of the diskette into the mail.

I will not post my email address here for fear of attracting SPAM, but if you mosey on over to <www.mause.ca> and click on the tab for Executive Team you will find that I am listed as President. Click on my name (Michael) to send me a message. Include a mailing address and I will mail you a disk with a copy of the compressed files that were included on the Shebanek diskette. Then you can make a disk image post it here for all to see.

Mike
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bobo68



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PostPosted: Sat Mar 11, 2017 2:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Your Mac Pro has a floppy drive and runs Mac OS X, right?
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Mike



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PostPosted: Sat Mar 11, 2017 3:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes.
My Mac Pro has an external floppy drive.

If you know how I can duplicate a NeXT-formatted diskette on a Mac Pro lay it on me.

Like I said before, I am new to NeXTStep and processes and actions that may seem basic and obvious to many of the rest of you are still a mystery to me.

Explain in simple terms.

Mike
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bobo68



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PostPosted: Sun Mar 12, 2017 11:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

On UNIX systems like the NeXT and OS X machines you can use the "dd" shell command. Before we try that: it might be easier to create a disk image with the "Disk Utility" of Mac OS X.

Does the diskette show up in Disk Utility?

These instructions might be helpful: http://imacify.com/2013/06/how-to-create-iso-disc-image-from-cddvd-in-mac-os-x/
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 12, 2017 1:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Worth a try...

See if you can do anything with this....

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/4370787/NeXTStep%20Guide.dmg
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 13, 2017 1:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Tried to mount it in NeXTstep (Previous) and OPENSTEP (Parallels): nada.

How did you create the image, which format did you choose in Disk Utility? Please try DVD/CD Master if you haven't.
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Mike



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PostPosted: Mon Mar 13, 2017 3:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Try this..... CD Master....

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/4370787/NeXTStep%20Guide.cdr

or this one...

https://www.dropbox.com/s/syteo19m233sxb4/NeXTStep%20Guide.cdr?dl=0


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PostPosted: Tue Mar 14, 2017 1:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Works! Thank you.

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PostPosted: Tue Mar 14, 2017 1:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Moved the files from the diskette via NFS to my Mac. Here they are in case you want them in the current world: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/1429222/Guide%20to%20NeXT%20Step.zip
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 15, 2017 1:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks! How to convert in a NeXT floppy with the latest MacOsX? Or should I use Rawrite on PC?
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 15, 2017 2:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you want to copy the floppy disk image onto a floppy disk you normally use the dd command on UNIX systems. Like this:

Code:
sudo dd if=<path to image> of=<path to device>


Have a look here for more information: https://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/how-to-create-disk-image-on-mac-os-x-with-dd-command/

Disk Utility should also be able to write back the image if the floppy disk shows up there.

AFAIK rawrite is a dd for Windows.
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