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helf



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PostPosted: Tue Dec 05, 2006 12:02 pm    Post subject: Cars... Reply with quote

Thought I'd start a new thread instead of cluttering up the other one...


A lot of the 'concept car' designs look terrible IMO... like this one...

http://www.cargurus.com/blog/2006/11/30/concepts-take-center-stage/


*barf*

How can people like that?

or this god awful thing...

http://www.autoblog.com/2006/04/26/mighty-morphin-tire-technology-on-mazda-rx-9/

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oh, what cars do you guys own/drive?

I have :

1983 Mazda RX-7 that needs a new body.... heh, dont ask ;)

1994 Chevy Astro Van - it's awesome, I bought it off my dad for 1 buck after wrecking my rx-7.. I never thought having a van would be nice.

1979 Triumph Spitfire 1500 - Bought it about 1.5 months ago. 'runs', needs work of course but over all the car is in really good shape. Be a hobby car for awhile.


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PostPosted: Tue Dec 05, 2006 1:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

1987 BMW (E30) 381i Very Happy
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 05, 2006 2:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

That concept mustang really sucks. Lines are all wrong, and the proportions seem a bit off as well.

The new Camaro and Challenger pre-production "concepts" look much better. Much more in fitting with the american muscle car image. I wish my '05 mustang had a little lower/wider stance than it does, but a lowering spring kit should help some.

My Family cars.

My Daily Driver: 2005 Mustang GT - Blue with grey interior.
Wife's Daily Driver: Pontiac Aztec (god awful ugly, but she loves it)
Daughters "car": Power Wheels Barbie Jeep
Project Car 1: 1966 Mustang coupe (A-code 289, pony interior)

Previous cars of note:
1964 1/2 Mustang coupe (tri-power V8, 4-speed)
Great car and wicked fast when all three carbs kicked in. It was rusted really bad, and basically cracked at the doorsills and buckled the roof one day just sitting in the driveway. Sold the car to someone who wanted the drivetrain, and used the proceeds to help buy the 66. Really wish I could have kept the induction, but that is what the guy really wanted, and parents wanted the car gone from the driveway.

1989 Mustang GT (5.0L V8, 5-speed)
My daily driver until my daughter was born in 2000, then had to park it. A real bitch to get a carseat in and out of that back seat. Engine burned some oil as well, so not the best car for a baby. Held on to it for a while as project car #2, hoping to use it as the guts of a Factory5 cobra replica kit, but two project cars too much for the wife. Sold it to get money for downpayment on '05 GT.

2000 VW Passat (V6, automatic)
Fit the proper 4-door requirement of my wife after our daughter was born. Much easier to get a carseat in and out of, and a really big trunk for its size. Really wanted an Audi A4/S4, but just could not stomach the payments, so got the Passat as it is same basic chassis.

A few other beaters here and there, but nothing worth noting.

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PostPosted: Tue Dec 05, 2006 5:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The thing about concepts is that you can't look at the whole vehicle at once.. Each element alone matters. The headlights, taillights, grille, fender arch, A, B, C pillars...

Those are the details that will carry over. Makes it a little bit easier on the stomach ;)

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1976 BMW 2002
1985 Mercedes Benz 300D Turbo
1996 Isuzu Hombre (Ironically the least reliable of the bunch)

Dearly Missing:
1987 BMW 528e 5-spd
1974 Volvo 142
1973 Volvo 164
1974 VW Karmann Ghia.
And many more..
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 05, 2006 10:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't mind the looks from the Italians. To me it is what it is, an Italian concept job on a Mustang, it's sweet but I like mine better. Some of you guys might remember they did that before, the year I was born, I remember seeing it in one of my Dad's car books.






I put dual flowmaster 40 American Thunders on it. Next is CAI and Tunes. Later is forced induction...lol I wish!

For those of you with BMW's, Mustang GT's and every other car that is considered better I salute you. For me it was either GT or ragtop. I like my ragtop Pony Package. Very Happy
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 07, 2006 4:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Here are some more shots of that concept mustang mentioned in the first post.

http://www.dieselstation.com/archive/Ford-Mustang-Giugiaro-Concept/

I still do not like it as a whole, especially the back, but some of the front views are better.

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PostPosted: Thu Dec 07, 2006 9:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

bleh, much rather have an old one Smile granted, the 2005-6s look WAAAY better than any of the late 80s, 90s, early 2000 'stangs. IMO :)

btw, this is a killer car -> http://www.ritzsite.net/Archive/0506.htm

Bizzarrini 1900 GT Europa

*drool*

why can't they make cars look like that? new ones are not much more aerodynamic. and that looks better Razz
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 08, 2006 9:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote



Something to shake things up!

I love browsing Craigslist. So does my cousin.. He says this should be my new truck.
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 09, 2006 8:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Currenty driving"

2001 Medcedes ML320 - the kid and computer hauler
2001 Mercedes SLK320 - my toy and commuter

Car I miss:

1983 Porsche 944
1962 FIAT 1200 Spider
1974 FIAT 124 Spider
1973 FIAT 850 Spider
1967 VW Beetle
1980 Audi 4000
1965 Chevy Nova SS 327

Motorcycles I miss:

1981 Honda CB400T Hawk - customized as cafe racer using Honda European parts
1974 Triumph Bonneville 750 - Always a fun ride and a long walk home. This was the most unreliable bike I ever owned but it was fun while it ran.
1972 Honda CL125 - my first bike
1972 Kawasaki H2 MachIV - total terror on two wheels. Only 26 miles per gallon whicj is miserable for a motorcycle. It was blindingly fast in a straight line but shit brick scarey in a corner. Handled like a pig. Back tires only lasted 3000 miles. I only kept it a year.
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 09, 2006 11:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

itomato wrote:


Something to shake things up!

I love browsing Craigslist. So does my cousin.. He says this should be my new truck.


Obligatory: Hey, that's my truck!

Actually, I drive a 98 2-door Dodge Neon, which compares unfavorably to that truck.
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 10, 2006 7:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Renault 4



My car on apfelautos.com Cool
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 10, 2006 12:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jaguar X-Type (company car)

Car I'd sell my soul for McLaren F1 GTR/LM, like this one

Bikes I'd love to have Honda VFR750R RC30 and also the weird Honda NR750 (8 valves per cylinder oval pistons)
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 10, 2006 9:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm extremely pleased with my 2002..

I would keep it (and make improvements) and swap my Benz and Pickup for one of these in a minute:



Older - 80's, and Diesel.
4-wheel drive, durability, comfort.. I would be set.

Failing that, I'd take another Jeep Comanche - but with the 4.0L Straight 6, not the pathetic GM 2.8 V6 that this one had..


Some of my cars throughout time:
http://juddy.org/cars/

(Apologies for the posting of that hideous "Hardbody Camaro..)
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 11, 2006 10:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

brams wrote:
Jaguar X-Type (company car)

Car I'd sell my soul for McLaren F1 GTR/LM, like this one

Bikes I'd love to have Honda VFR750R RC30 and also the weird Honda NR750 (8 valves per cylinder oval pistons)


Those McLarens are only, what, 250k usd? Razz I do like them a lot.

as far as bikes go, i want that old suzuki (I think) Rotary powered motorcycle. it's really neat, has a tiny rotary engine. The thing sounds so weird Razz
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 11, 2006 1:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

helf wrote:
Those McLarens are only, what, 250k usd? Razz I do like them a lot.

as far as bikes go, i want that old suzuki (I think) Rotary powered motorcycle. it's really neat, has a tiny rotary engine. The thing sounds so weird Razz


A normal McLaren F1 will cost you in the UK and Europe about a million pounds if you can get one, they made about 75 road cars I think. They made 5 GTR/LM's to celebrate winning the 95 Le Mans and an LM will cost you much much more than an F1 road car, the Sultan of Brunei is reported to have 3 of the 5 cars with one also being in the USA (something to do with BMW place Turner Motorsports) and the 5th one I have no idea, there is a 6th LM the prototype XP-LM which still belongs to McLaren Cars Ltd and is the one shown in most of the pics on the net.

Pink Floyd drummer Nick Mason converted a 1996 F1 GTR racer into a road car because he was fed up waiting for a F1 road car. there are only a handful of F1's in the USA , Elon Musk has one, Jim Clark of SGI fame has one and so does Jay Leno, all these cars are Amerispec conversions. Any F1 after 1996 can't be used in the USA unless is show and display and I don't think you can do that anymore. I think there are maybe 4 legal F1's in the USA so I'd guess they'd change hands well over 3 million US each.

Think the bike you are referring to is the Suzuki GT500 RE5 from the mid 70's, in fact from about the same time period as the Kawasaki KH 500/750 blackcube mentioned. If you like rotary bikes, then check out the Norton F1 which was based on the Norton RCW 588 racer as ridden by the like of Trevor Nation and Joey Dunlop (RIP)
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