NextStep 3.3 on floppy?

Started by antryg, August 17, 2007, 08:22:00 PM

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antryg

Is there any place I can locate NextStep 3.3 on floppy or is it too large?  I have 3.0 on CD but sadly no CD drive  :cry:  for my NextStation Turbo Color (recently acquired on ebay for $50 + shipping)  :D  

Slab with 16 MB RAM, 450 MB HD, Sound box, 17" Next Color Monitor, Next Keyboard and Mouse and Manuals.  

I am now trying to figure out how to connect to the network here at the school where I teach.

I got the pleasure of using one of these machine when I was in graduate school and never forgot about them.  I think it was actually a Cube I used then however and would like to get one of those also.  :)

neozeed

Remember Steve hated/hates floppies.  NeXTSTEP 0.9-2 shipped on the magnetic optical disks.  Starting with 3 it was on CD.

All the floppy has is a program that'll read the CD from the bios.  The CD is a FFS filesystem (is that redundant?).

Now somewhere around here, somebody just DD'd a copy of the CD onto a hard disk, slapped that in a cube, and it booted.

The other thing you could try is to netboot from an i386.......  i'm completly unsure if that'll work.  But logicall it ought to.  You'll just need an emulator that doesn't NAT.
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pergamon

Quote from: "neozeed"Remember Steve hated/hates floppies.  NeXTSTEP 0.9-2 shipped on the magnetic optical disks.  Starting with 3 it was on CD.

All the floppy has is a program that'll read the CD from the bios.  The CD is a FFS filesystem (is that redundant?).

Now somewhere around here, somebody just DD'd a copy of the CD onto a hard disk, slapped that in a cube, and it booted.

The other thing you could try is to netboot from an i386.......  i'm completly unsure if that'll work.  But logicall it ought to.  You'll just need an emulator that doesn't NAT.

The uncommon NS2.2 (and maybe 2.1 and 2.0) was available on floppies, because it could run on the stations which didn't have ODs, but before the first CD-distributed version (3.0).

da9000

Quote from: "pergamon"The uncommon NS2.2 (and maybe 2.1 and 2.0) was available on floppies, because it could run on the stations which didn't have ODs, but before the first CD-distributed version (3.0).

Woa, that must have been a lot of floppies, Pergamon! You probably have it, yeah? Can you count'em? :)

neozeed

i guess it makes sense as the first slabs had no OD, and 3.0 was the first on CD..

Next time I'm back in Miami to rescue my cube, i'm pretty sure I have a copy of 2. something on OD, and I'm pretty sure i left it on the 5 1/4" FH disk.. I can easily make an image of it.

Of course it wont run on anything but a next...  I wonder if there are any 68040 / mmu complete emulators out there......

The sun people alwasys said the next hardware wasn't that complicated, and the NBIC isn't used as there really aren't any periphials.....

but then it'd probably be near impossible without a memory map.
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antryg

All that being the case, I guess I need to find a SCSI CD-ROM drive for my slab and a copy of NS3.3 on CD. :?

helf

Apple 600e scsi cd drives work great and are pretty cheap on ebay. It's what i use
*INACTIVE*

neozeed

I used some no namer 24x SCSI internal CD I scalped from a Dell server.  Not only did it work, but it installed in *NO* time... I recall it taking longer to format the disk with disktool...
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MauiBoy

Quote from: "helf"Apple 600e scsi cd drives work great and are pretty cheap on ebay. It's what i use

Is there a special cable adapter to hook this up to a NeXTStation Turbo Color?  I've seen the cable, and it looks like a "Centronics" connection on one end with a "Serial" connection on the other.  (I realize it's a SCSI cable, but the cable connectors look like the above.)  The connection on my NeXTStation is one of the much smaller UltraSCSI HD50 connections.  Is there an adapter to go from the DB25-looking connector to the smaller HD50 connection on the NeXTStation?

Thanks!

nextchef

Here is an Ebay auction number for the cable you need.  There are others on Ebay as well.

140153230380

Chef