SCSI.blue work/better than SCSI2SD

zombie · August 10, 2021, 05:59:29 PM

Has anyone tied this? It's supposed to be faster and be completely open source (you can build your own):

https://scsi.blue/

https://twitter.com/bluescsi/status/1424850574936264704?s=21

Rob Blessin Black Hole · August 12, 2021, 02:23:12 PM

Hello Zombie: I ordered a kit and will try it out. It will probably take awhile for me to get to it , ought to fun to compare against scsi2sd 5.2 Best regards Rob Blessin

itomato · August 25, 2021, 09:05:19 AM

I just did a quick experiment on PCBway.

We could do a special run in black soldermask with nice thick PCB and top-notch plating.

50 pieces (assembled) of the 1.0-c BOM comes out to $411 shipped

We could do a small run. I can set up a Patreon or somesuch.

Vote away:

https://twitter.com/itomato/status/1430548376517586945

BlueSCSI posted a pic in response showing what a matte black part looks like: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E9pVAtxWUAcgglD?format=jpg

nextchef · August 25, 2021, 12:43:42 PM

The "Supported Systems" page on github now lists 040 cubes as "Working without issue".

bobo68 · January 31, 2022, 10:17:54 AM

Hi I ordered a BlueSCSI. Who got it to work with a NeXT, someone from this forum? The (virtual) drive geometry might pose a problem as it was with SCSI2SD.

pergamon · January 31, 2022, 08:54:29 PM

I ordered a BlueSCSI that arrived a few days ago, but haven't had a chance to try it yet!

pixel · March 31, 2022, 05:08:23 PM

I'm trying to get one to work on my NeXTStation Color, with not much luck. It attempts to read the drive, but fails with "exception #3 (0xc) at 0x100034c". I'm using the "Nextstep 3.3 HD Image With Previous" from Winworld, so I'm not sure if that is the issue.

Has anyone else had any luck with BlueSCSI?

tomekwojcik · January 06, 2023, 06:54:57 AM

Quote from: pixel on March 31, 2022, 05:08:23 PMI'm trying to get one to work on my NeXTStation Color, with not much luck. It attempts to read the drive, but fails with "exception #3 (0xc) at 0x100034c". I'm using the "Nextstep 3.3 HD Image With Previous" from Winworld, so I'm not sure if that is the issue.

Has anyone else had any luck with BlueSCSI?

Yeah, I'm having similar issues with BlueSCSI - kernel panics, SCSI hangs, read errors. Tried both FAT32 and ExFAT on multiple cards. SCSI2SD works well with the same image. I'm running a NeXTstation Turbo Color.

MacintoshLibrarian · January 06, 2023, 06:59:29 AM

Quote from: pixel on March 31, 2022, 05:08:23 PMI'm trying to get one to work on my NeXTStation Color, with not much luck. It attempts to read the drive, but fails with "exception #3 (0xc) at 0x100034c". I'm using the "Nextstep 3.3 HD Image With Previous" from Winworld, so I'm not sure if that is the issue.

Has anyone else had any luck with BlueSCSI?

I had to set my image name to "HD30_512_..."
Once it was set to SCSI device 3 (by renaming the file like above) it booted just fine.

Another thing you can try is booting the image in Previous first.. see if it runs there.

Nitro · March 08, 2023, 06:32:52 PM

Nitro · March 09, 2023, 08:15:06 PM

Nitro · March 16, 2023, 11:06:23 AM

I received the BlueSCSI V2 Desktop version and it's working well so far in my Turbo Color slab. I'm using a 14 GB NEXTSTEP 3.3 image with seven 2 GB partitions. The first microSD card that I tried (Kingston 16GB) gave a lot of errors but I switched to a SanDisk 32GB card and it works fine. The microSD card is formatted exFAT and the image is named HD10_512_NEXTSTEP_3.3.hda. The card arrived fully assembled for $50.00 + $5.50 for first class shipping. It included a 3D printed mounting bracket. The card draws it power from the SCSI cable so it wasn't necessary to connect power to the Berg connector. I'm giving it two thumbs up so far.

Edit: I just wanted to mention that I'm not affiliated with the BlueSCSI project; I'm simply a happy customer. I paid for this out of my pocket.

I also tested this with a 32 GB Samsung Pro Endurance MicroSD card ($8.99) and it works well. https://www.amazon.com/dp/B09WB35BXS

NeXTnewbe · March 30, 2023, 09:36:26 AM

MMM, I wonder

which good industrial grade SD card can be used, as user grade SD cards have a short life span

Nitro · March 31, 2023, 03:55:17 AM

Quote from: NeXTnewbe on March 30, 2023, 09:36:26 AMMMM, I wonder

which good industrial grade SD card can be used, as user grade SD cards have a short life span

Tom's hardware has a recent article comparing microSD cards, including endurance cards which claim to have up to 25 times greater longevity.

I have nearly a dozen Raspberry Pi's going back to the original Raspberry Pi Model B from 2012, and I must say that I've never had an SD/microSD card fail even after 500+ compiles, so my experience has been different. I also have two SanDisk 128 GB High Endurance microSD cards in 4K video cameras that have been writing continuously to the cards 24/7/365 for more than two years now without failure, so I've had a good experience with the endurance cards too. Good luck with your search and I hope you find what you're looking for.

https://www.tomshardware.com/best-picks/raspberry-pi-microsd-cards
https://www.pidramble.com/wiki/benchmarks/microsd-cards

nuss · March 31, 2023, 07:08:47 AM

Hi, I use almost the same microSD cards like Nitro does: SanDisk Ultra 32GB HCI (class 10)

About twenty of them are used for several years in Smartphones, Tablets, but with more read/write in Raspis and now for two days in NeXT machines. From those cards none got broken yet, but in my experience there is also much luck involved

From this said, I can confirm that my external BlueSCSI v2 work perfectly fine to boot and run a NeXTstation Turbo color and also my NeXTcube. I have no experience with the internal ones (still have to finish soldering them), also not with long term reliance.