Copland

mrintel · July 11, 2009, 06:07:34 AM

Ok, I know that this is a NeXT forum, but since it had an Apple section (and me being the curious type), I had to ask...
What does everyone know about Copland?

domiel · July 11, 2009, 07:32:14 AM

Not much except that I'd like to lay my hands on a copy :-)

un · July 11, 2009, 09:17:08 AM

They never really had much working from what I've read. There were some developer versions that only ran on particular models and weren't even nearly stable or usable.

applefreak · July 12, 2009, 04:01:06 AM

In august 1996 'Developer Release 0′ was sent to a small number of partners but was unstable, crashing and unusuable for development.

http://appledifferent.com/wordpress/2009/03/26/copland-mac-os-that-never-was/

mrintel · July 12, 2009, 01:57:40 PM

Well, I have both versions (DR0 and DR1). I was just wondering what people knew about Copland

cubist · July 12, 2009, 06:23:47 PM

Quote from: "mrintel"Well, I have both versions (DR0 and DR1). I was just wondering what people knew about Copland

Well, its predecessor, Taligent, produced an object-oriented programming book I never found useful. Not certain how much of that carried into Copland. Would also be interested in hearing more...

mrintel · July 12, 2009, 07:32:59 PM

was there ever a release for Taligent?

protocol7 · July 27, 2009, 07:50:55 AM

I don't think Taligent (aka "Pink") really got off the ground.

I was never able to get either Copland build to boot due to lack of the right hardware but I did go poking through the files a long time ago. The ATM screen had a colour version of the old "landscape" picture from System 1.1. I took it out with Resedit, resized it to fit and used it in my OS8 install

I have the full DDK which included the D11E4 build so I'll dig it out later and see if there's anything else about Copland in there. Also some white papers.

mrintel · July 27, 2009, 08:09:39 AM

I just ordered a Power Mac 8500 to see if I can get Copland DR1 working. Can't wait to see what it can do (if anything at all)

cuby · July 27, 2009, 09:51:27 AM

FYI... lots of docs on Copland: http://www.pagetable.com/?p=211

protocol7 · July 27, 2009, 10:18:18 AM

Thanks for that link. I didn't realise there was a D9 build too.

mrintel · July 27, 2009, 04:29:30 PM

huh, me neither. Thanks a lot. Love to get my hands on that version.

mrintel · August 17, 2009, 11:39:18 AM

Ok, I tried to install Copland, and everything went fine, until the kernel tried to initialize. Then the debugger gave this error...

Access Fault

Kernel: Dispatcher: No kernel stacks available!

Does anybody have any idea as to what I'm doing wrong, if anything at all?

dru · September 27, 2010, 10:10:28 AM

Quote from: "mrintel"was there ever a release for Taligent?

There was but not as a standalone OS.

It shipped as Taligent CommonPoint for AIX 4.1 in July '95. Apparently it runs in a AIX-hosted window with its own menus, icons and desktop.

According to IBM docs, it's not compatible with AIX 4.2 and later either.

slomacuser · September 27, 2010, 03:06:40 PM

I installed successfully Copland D11E4 on my PowerMac 7100/80, but it is not useful it is really buggy release ...

movie 1 http://dl.dropbox.com/u/86210/P1010012.MOV

movie 2 http://dl.dropbox.com/u/86210/P1010013.MOV