Mathematica 2.2 and 3.0 working!

Started by spitfire, September 29, 2021, 07:33:27 PM

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Rob Blessin Black Hole

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Hello NeXT Community:  I found my original 3.0.2 Mathematica while looking for something else today , I think we had paid $1500 back in the Day .  So officially February 9th , 2023 is 30 years in the NeXT Business for me.  Here is the CDR I made for you all of Mathematica 3.0.2  and a link https://drive.google.com/file/d/1nMaRVa2iEXOah_hdN1gZIAqhXohX11hS/view?usp=share_link   , It has all the different platforms look under Unix for the NeXT Versions :) Thanks for keeping the lights on here at blackholeinc.com and computerpowwow on eBay.  You can always buy me a coffee paypal to [email protected]  Enjoy! Best regards Rob Blessin   This was the official last version for NeXTSTEP :) let me know if it works or if you need help as always.
Rob Blessin President computerpowwow ebay  [email protected] http://www.blackholeinc.com
303-741-9998 Serving the NeXT Community  since 2/9/93

wlewisiii

Thank you for this! I greatly appreciate it.

I added it to the SCSI disk list in Previous 2.5 on Windows 10 and 2.7 on Linux Mint 21.1

It mounted the disk, and I started browsing the disk but, in both cases, something quickly caused workplace manager to crash me out to the login screen.

If this is due to simply being a cdr rather than a physical cd, I'll have to wait to buy media a week from Friday (payday :) )

I do note that I have not had any issues with iso files in Previous.

Plus I'll still need to figure out the mathid question but that's a different crazy ;)

Nitro

Quote from: Rob Blessin Black Hole on February 08, 2023, 08:15:50 PMHello NeXT Community:  I found my original 3.0.2 Mathematica while looking for something else today , I think we had paid $1500 back in the Day .  So officially February 9th , 2023 is 30 years in the NeXT Business for me.  Here is the CDR I made for you all of Mathematica 3.0.2  and a link https://drive.google.com/file/d/12CjfwNL8kndYIVpRW9R3BUrLbnkYAapM/view?usp=sharing  , It has all the different platforms look under Unix for the NeXT Versions :) Thanks for keeping the lights on here at blackholeinc.com and computerpowwow on eBay.  You can always buy me a coffee paypal to [email protected]  Enjoy! Best regards Rob Blessin  This was the official last version for NeXTSTEP :) let me know if it works or if you need help as always.

Congrats on 30 years in the NeXT business Rob!
Nitro

Rob Blessin Black Hole

Quote from: wlewisiii on February 08, 2023, 09:44:05 PMThank you for this! I greatly appreciate it.

I added it to the SCSI disk list in Previous 2.5 on Windows 10 and 2.7 on Linux Mint 21.1

It mounted the disk, and I started browsing the disk but, in both cases, something quickly caused workplace manager to crash me out to the login screen.

If this is due to simply being a cdr rather than a physical cd, I'll have to wait to buy media a week from Friday (payday :) )

I do note that I have not had any issues with iso files in Previous.

Plus I'll still need to figure out the mathid question but that's a different crazy ;)

Try this link https://drive.google.com/file/d/1nMaRVa2iEXOah_hdN1gZIAqhXohX11hS/view?usp=share_link  I went back and reformatted , this iso is made from a customer pdf file converted using anytoiso.app and I tried it and it seems to work in Previous , where the other cdr version I mad earlier had workspace manager crash issues :)
Rob Blessin President computerpowwow ebay  [email protected] http://www.blackholeinc.com
303-741-9998 Serving the NeXT Community  since 2/9/93

MindWalker

There might be an issue with Previous, I tried several images and sometimes I was able to install just fine and other times I'd get either workspace crashing or other weirdness.

Quote from: spitfire on September 29, 2021, 07:33:27 PMSelect European style license and enter your mathid and license number. If you don't have a license number there should be an example mathpass file with a license number you can use.

I can see my MathID on the registration window of Mathematica, but where do I get the license number? I couldn't find the mathpass file anywhere either.

spitfire

At least in Mathematica 2.2 there's an example mathpass in Mathematica.app/Install/mathpass
for a machine called "Kernighan" L2093-8764. Try that as your license.

You can use the GUI mathematica license installer or the script in Mathematica.app/Install/ to install a license.

wlewisiii

Ok, follow up.

The 3.0.2 iso has all of the file names squashed to lowercase. All of the exectuable bits have been stripped off as well. I've tried making a tarball to put the files on my data drive but it still fails to run the installer because of those issues.

The 3.0.0 iso I have ran fine from the command line. That also gave me the mathid needed to successfully license the install using the app from this thread. Once installed, however, I am unable to find a Mathematica.app for version 3 anywhere on the disk. The one in NextApps started up my copy of 2.0 I copied the Mathematica executable from the CD and after a bit of puttering it runs from the command line and the couple of expressions I tried evaluated correctly.

I tried reinstalling 3.0.0 after renaming the NextApps Mathematica.app M2.app to see if it created a Mathematica.app then. It found the license info so that was left alone. No app but it runs fine from the executable in /usr/local/mathematica or the one I copied to /usr/local/bin though I am having path issues (&*%&# csh). 

EDIT: Path issues due to still being su'd to root for the install. Fine after exiting to the Me user. Do'oh. Too used to bash. Need to adjust my account.

Hope this info is of interest/help to someone else.

spitfire

On Mathematica 3.0 if you cd into /usr/local/matheamtica execute "open ." then drag the mathematica icon onto your dock, that will work nicely.

wlewisiii


paolo.bertolo

Hi All,
I recently scored a nice boxed version of Mathematica 3.0, complete of everything.
Package is officially for the Macintosh, but the box reads that installers for other platforms (including NeXTSTEP) are available on the CD. Which is true, but none of the installers seem to work, with the shell script stopping and raising an issue about some non existing path.
Any hint? Am I missing something?

(Back at the time when I was an engineering student, I used to like Mathematica, but all my true, eternal love :-) goes to Matlab, unfortunately never ported to NeXTSTEP).

pTeK

Quote from: paolo.bertolo on May 16, 2023, 04:08:35 PM(Back at the time when I was an engineering student, I used to like Mathematica, but all my true, eternal love :-) goes to Matlab, unfortunately never ported to NeXTSTEP).

There is a Matlab amiga port with the fortran source code at http://aminet.net/misc/math/Matlab.lha

I studied Mechanical engineering and did a computer paper a couple of years ago and had to learn basic Matlab. Just used the DOS version on winworldpc and DOSBox, didn't see the point of downloading the 1GB version if all I was doing was basic MatLab stuff and the DOS version which was less than 1MB was good for the job.

I loaded the source back into the current one at school so I could smash that output to pdf function so I could hand in my assignments.

nuss

Quote from: paolo.bertolo on May 16, 2023, 04:08:35 PMwith the shell script stopping and raising an issue about some non existing path.

Hi @paolo.bertolo , maybe the exact error message / path can help identify what is missing.
What is the NeXT hardware (black, white, ...) you are trying the install for, what is the OS?
DON'T PANIC

paolo.bertolo

Quote from: nuss on May 17, 2023, 12:15:31 AMHi @paolo.bertolo , maybe the exact error message / path can help identify what is missing.
What is the NeXT hardware (black, white, ...) you are trying the install for, what is the OS?

Yes, I agree it could help.

So, here we go...

I get the same error (see screen grab) on a NeXT Computer 030 with NeXTSTEP 3.3 and on an HP 712, also with NS 3.3 on it.

I think it's not some kind of "bug", it would be gross, maybe I'm just missing the point about the "installers", as I strongly doubt alle these different versions would fit in just one CD ROM.

Unfortunately, I could not find any hint in the printed documentation.

Thanks in advance for any suggestion.

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paolo.bertolo

Quote from: pTeK on May 16, 2023, 08:11:44 PMThere is a Matlab amiga port with the fortran source code at http://aminet.net/misc/math/Matlab.lha

I will give a look at that, thanks.

In fact, I already have a v1.0 copy compiled and running on the NeXT. I believe it's totally unofficial, as there's no record (at least not that I could find any) of official releases for the NeXT platform.

For many years, even Macintosh versions were no longer released, as the business case was not there.

Anyhow, Matlab is a wonderful programming environment for scientists and engineers, I am professionally developing software based on Matlab since almost 20 years now.

Mathematica is a beauty, but covers a very different user base.

paolo.bertolo

25 may 1982, ported to NeXT on 30 Nov 1991...

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