Started by brunocampos, September 02, 2023, 11:31:21 AM
Quote from: nuss on September 03, 2023, 07:19:12 AMOn this topic I can only tell a tiny anecdote: For me the late 90s were the pioneer years of the World Wide Web and the whole topic fascinated me since the first HTML pages got "surfed" on our NeXT and UNIX machines and we went life with personal university web pages in 1996 (full of valuable information).Around 1998/99 I applied for a job-offer near Munich (Germany) at a company creating the web-shop for Daimler/Mercedes-Benz.What made this company special and interesting for me was, that they worked with Objective-C (well known to me), EOF and WebObjects (not so well known) to create interactive web-sites.The late 90s were still full of web-pages being colorful, flashy and "under construction" images and more important, not many of them were too interactive. And this company showed me their shop system, where people all over the world could interact with. Very impressive!In the end I joined another startup for web solutions, so all I can add to the original question (from my mind, that hopefully did not fool me) is that the Daimler web-shop around 1999 quite sure was build upon WebObjects
Quote from: isoriano on September 03, 2023, 09:55:20 AMGerman company .. Object Factory?
Quote from: pTeK on September 07, 2023, 07:04:50 PMRob are using WebObjects for your business?Did you sell many copies in the 90s?
Quote from: Rob Blessin Black Hole on September 08, 2023, 06:22:38 PMWeb Objects you say, one of my favorite war stories and I think enough time has passed where I won't get in any trouble. I received a call from Apple Legal , shit had hit the fan, I tunes had crashed and no one at Apple corporate had thought to keep copies of the original Web Objects software on hand as they are burning rubber into the future. My understanding is they burned so much rubber so to speak is that the structure of WebObjects and the volume to which it was being used by Apple for Itunes crashed it. No easy feet as Fannie Mae handled 20 million transactions a day with out a hick up , Heck NeXTSTEP AMD/ Intel boxes I integrated for the CBOE the NeXTSTEP OS didn't crash we we're burning up processors over a billion trades per day so hot spare computers we're a must lol. My response to Apple, Yes I have the Web Objects media and licenses you need , how about $500 but I would like them back. I probably could have said 1 Million lol but it was Apple and pulling a thorn out of the big lions paw seemed right to me. Well Apple kept my original Web Object CD's and sent me back copies lol but also as the result of that I can still provide NeXTSTEP and Openstep licensing even in 2023 . I don't know how much Apple lost in terms of revenue when ITunes was down for a few days but I was really happy as they we're that I had kept the old stuff. If it isn't broke don't fix it lol creepy as I just went to see if Itunes is still using ITunes and was prompted to reboot as a new version of Ventura was just installed.
Quote from: pTeK on September 10, 2023, 12:23:07 AMdo you think the niche market may have been the initial $25,000USD price? That is a steep price for startups in the late 90s and IT is one of the industries which has the cheapest price of entry now compared to the 90s where you might have had to purchase SUN hardware instead of off-the-shelf components (pentiums, PPC)?